{"content":{"sharePage":{"page":0,"digests":[{"id":"30267923","dateCreated":"1289884605","smartDate":"Nov 15, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"helojello","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/helojello","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/davidgarethw-books-b.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/30267923"},"dateDigested":1531973868,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"Nelly Dean","description":" Nelly Dean is a very important character in the book Wuthering Heights by Emily Bronte. One could even argue that she is the main character. She\u2019s the one telling us the story from her point of view; from what she saw and experienced, to what she thought and felt. Since she is telling us what happens from the way she saw it, the story automatically becomes very biased. Even though she\u2019s the narrator, she is more than that. Her input and the way she interprets what is going on around her influence how we read the story.
\n Nelly is the kind of woman who loves to butt into other people\u2019s lives. She is always making excuses to stay in the room to watch what is about to go on. \u201cHe lifted the latch, and I entered; but when I got to the parlor where Mr. and Mrs. Linton were, I could not persuade myself to proceed. At length, I resolved on making an excuse to ask if they would have the candles lighted, and I opened the door.\u201d (page 91). Here one can see that Nelly would do anything to be able to be in the room when she knows something interesting is about to happen. She\u2019ll lie and\/or make up excuses just so she can eavesdrop.
\n Nelly is also a little helpless at times. She is a servant and therefore she has to do what she is told. When Catherine wants Nelly to go with her to Thrushcross Range and Nelly doesn\u2019t want to go, Catherine ends up persuading her. Nelly says, \u201cWhen I refused to go, and when she found her entreaties did not move me, she went lamenting to her husband and brother. The former offered me munificent wages; the latter ordered me to pack up \u2013 he wanted no women in the house, he said, now that there was no mistress, and as to Hareton, the curate should take him in hand, by and bye.\u201d (page 87). She was persuaded to do something she didn\u2019t want to do. Nelly isn\u2019t one of Catherine\u2019s fans, and she didn\u2019t want to leave, and yet she left as soon as she was offered more money and when Hindley said he didn\u2019t want her there. Even though she didn\u2019t have much of a choice, she could have still put up a fight.
\n Even though Catherine and Nelly don\u2019t get along very well, Nelly is someone everyone seems to confide in. Heathcliff likes her and talks to her, Isabella sends her the letter she wrote, and Catherine confides in her about many things, such as her marriage and her love for Heathcliff. She even wants Nelly\u2019s opinion on the situation. \u201cI want to know what I should do. Today, Edgar Linton has asked me to marry him, and I\u2019ve given him an answer. Now, before I tell you if it was a consent or a denial, you tell me which it ought to have been.\u201d (page 75)
\n Nelly is a very important character in the story, even if one has to interpret it to understand just how much impact she has on the story.","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[{"id":"30294987","body":"Thanks Heloisa,
\n
\nWebster","dateCreated":"1289928404","smartDate":"Nov 16, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"davidgarethw","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/davidgarethw","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}}],"more":0}]},{"id":"30122655","dateCreated":"1289605787","smartDate":"Nov 12, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"julibarca10","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/julibarca10","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/pic\/1269448814\/julibarca10-lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/davidgarethw-books-b.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/30122655"},"dateDigested":1531973868,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"Nelly","description":"
\n
\nNelly is a very peculiar and curious person. When we first meet Nelly she seems to be the typical maid that always likes to eavesdrop on their masters but quickly we discover that she is more than that when she allows her emotions to get in the way of the story. Nelly also in a way feels strongly connected to the Earnshaws since she has lived with them almost all her life and in a way she feels one of them and so she is \u201csuperior\u201d to other workers at the Grange or at the Heights. \u201cBefore I came to live here, she commenced - waiting no farther invitation to her story - I was almost always at Wuthering Heights; because my mother had nursed Mr. Hindley Earnshaw, that was Hareton's father, and I got used to playing with the children: I ran errands too, and helped to make hay, and hung about the farm ready for anything that anybody would set me to.\u201d (pg. 34) She even considers Cathy Jr. as hers. \u201cHareton is the last of them, as our Miss Cathy is of us - I mean, of the Lintons.\u201d (pg. 33) Nelly clearly feels identified to a higher-level class; it is such so that she says \u201cus\u201d referring to the Lintons. When telling the story Nelly is extremely careful of hiding her feelings or any type of sentiment she may feel towards somebody. An example of when she does reveal her feelings is when Heathcliff is revealing his feelings towards Catherine while Nelly is combing her the result is the following. \u201c \u2018Oh, Nelly!\u2019 she added petulantly, jerking her head away from my hands, \u2018you\u2019ve combed my hair quite out of curl! That\u2019s enough; let me alone.\u2019 \u201c (Pg. 67) The reaction Nelly had when she listened to this made her comb Catherine\u2019s hair in a less gentle fashion, and instead decides too pull on her hair because she somehow has some feelings for Heathcliff and it bothers her that Catherine is so cold towards him. We can\u2019t rely much on Nelly\u2019s story since we get the feeling that a lot of the story is told from her viewpoint, plus we have seen that Nelly is hiding some of her feelings and opinions when telling her story. The reasons she may have to do this is that she doesn\u2019t want to look bad in the eyes of Mr. Lockwood since, she actually manipulates and plays a lot with the members of the houses. She mostly does this by telling them only one part of the story or just not telling them at all. The typical parts in her telling on the story are usually represented when she is involved and we can tell that most of the things she does them with a vile intention and then when she is recreating the story she makes herself look good. For example the time when Catherine pinches her because of the spiteful remarks she was making and she just plays on to make Catherine look bad, in the story Nelly tries to make herself look good and make it sound as if Catherine was the cruel one, but actually Nelly is the one who does this with spiteful intentions. All in all Nelly is definitely one complex character which makes harder for us to analyze since we get to find out very little about her.
\n
\nMr. Webster im sorry i posted this a tad late but until now do i have internet again at my home because the light had gone out.
\nthank you,
\nJulian Picado","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[{"id":"30219727","body":"No worries, Julian,
\n
\nThanks,
\n
\nWebster","dateCreated":"1289843440","smartDate":"Nov 15, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"davidgarethw","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/davidgarethw","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}}],"more":0}]},{"id":"30118439","dateCreated":"1289598995","smartDate":"Nov 12, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"maaayyyaaa","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/maaayyyaaa","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/pic\/1222817730\/maaayyyaaa-lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/davidgarethw-books-b.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/30118439"},"dateDigested":1531973868,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"Nelly","description":"While reading Wuthering Heights, we often assign Nelly the role of solely the narrator. However, through careful reading, we can see how she emerges as a character within the plot itself. As readers, we have to keep in mind that Nelly is telling an account in which she herself participates. All that we know is told through her eyes. Often, Nelly has very strong feelings about other characters. This influences the way in which we perceive them. Her narration affects who we sympathize with and who disgusts us. She says about Catherine, "Our young lady returned to us... haughtier than ever," (pg. 86). Nelly mentions several times how Catherine is arrogant and spoiled. Nelly and Catherine grew up together and are nearly the same age, and it is very probable that Nelly is jealous of Catherine's lifestyle. On the other hand, Nelly sympathizes with Heathcliff. When talking to Catherine about her engagement, she says about Heathcliff, "As soon as you become Mrs. Linton, he loses friend, and love, and all! Have you considered how you'll bear the separation, and how he'll bear to be quite deserted in the world?" (pg. 79).
\n
\nNelly is also quite a gossip. She is always there, in the background, listening and watching. She keeps a low profile, and subtly acquires information which she then uses to manipulate others. For instance, she was the only one who saw Heathcliff embrace Isabella in the garden. "I was standing by the kitchen window, but I drew out of sight," (pg. 107). After she sees them hug, she tells Catherine what she has seen which turns Catherine against Heathcliff. We can see how Nelly isn't really loyal to anyone in particular, while almost everyone trusts her. Catherine confides to her that Edgar has proposed and wants Nelly's advice on whether her response was a good decision. Nelly was born and raised as a servant. She does whatever her current master tells her to do, regardless of whether it harms other people. For instance, when Edgar arrives to spend time with Catherine, Nelly remains in the room to listen because "Mr. Hindly had given [her] directions to make a third party in any private visits Linton chose to pay," (pg. 68). She ignores Catherine's wishes and fully obeys her master's instructions. Then, when Edgar and Heathcliff are fighting, Edgar instructs Nelly to fetch two men to help him should the fight become violent. Nelly does what she is told although she knows that this could harm Heathcliff greatly. In these ways, we can see how Nelly isn't loyal to anyone in particular, and just flits around in the background while subtly manipulating everyone.","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[{"id":"30219647","body":"Thanks Maya,
\n
\nWebster","dateCreated":"1289843399","smartDate":"Nov 15, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"davidgarethw","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/davidgarethw","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}}],"more":0}]},{"id":"30118251","dateCreated":"1289598791","smartDate":"Nov 12, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"danielx_184","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/danielx_184","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/davidgarethw-books-b.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/30118251"},"dateDigested":1531973868,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"Nelly","description":"Nelly Dean can tend to pass undisclosed when one reads Wuthering Heights. It is easy to believe that the story is actually being told by an omniscient narrator and that Nelly is just another character in the entangled story of love and revenge; however the reader must remember that Nelly is in fact the narrator and she is telling the story to Lockwood. Nelly, like any other protagonist narrator, transverses the story into what she believes to be the truth and reality of the events.
\nOriginally she seems like a calm servant that does her job and stays out of other lives, however she proves to be exactly the opposite. Start with the fact that if she really cared about what happened to Heathcliff and Catherine she would try to keep it a secretive as she could. Yet the instance that Lockwood asks if she may tell him why Heathcliff is the way he is she says \u201cOh, certainly, sir!\u201d(pg. 34) She is a gossip lady; she cares more about sharing the gossip and the news. She does not even seem to consider to whom she is telling the story, for the narrative seems to start soon after Mr. Lockwood\u2019s arrival at Thrushcross Grange; making him a stranger.
\nShe is also present in moments when she shouldn\u2019t be. Even though she knows she should not be in certain places at certain times she still does. One example is when Catherine and Heathcliff are talking about Isabella\u2019s love for the former. Nelly is there, listening to the private conversations of her mistress. A second example is when Heathcliff and Catherine are talking before Catherine dies. The fact that she describes the scene so accurately can only suggest her presence on that same room and her lack of intervention shows her eager to know. She repeats Catherine\u2019s words so vividly as if she had taken pleasure from them \u201cOh, you see, Nelly, he will not relent a moment to keep me out of the grave\u2026\u201d (pg:155 ) Catherine is suffering due to Heathcliff\u2019s words, yet Nelly does nothing about it, doesn\u2019t ask him to leave; nothing, not until Edgar arrives. This shows two sides to Nelly a caring one, and an uncaring one. She does not really care about her mistress condition and the fact that Heathcliff is doing more good than bad; and on the other hand she shows caring about Heathcliff for she asks him to leave before Edgar arrives in order to avoid a confrontation.
\nAnother example of Nelly\u2019s plot turning events is the moment that she is with Catherine in a room with the presence of Edward. Nelly, by triggering Catherine\u2019s anger, will show Edgar who Catherine really is, not that masquerade that she has portrayed in previous visits. She shows Catherine\u2019s immature, crude behavior. It is in fact Nelly\u2019s goal up to a point to \u201cdestroy\u201d Catherine. Catherine tells Nelly things she considers secrets and at a moment\u2019s notice Nelly goes on to tell someone else. For instance when Catherine is sick and wants Edgar to be left unacquainted of the situation; yet she goes and tells Edgar \u201cMy poor mistress is sick, and she quite masters me, I cannot manage her at all\u2026\u201d (pg.123) she is unable to keep Catherine\u2019s regards secretive.
\nHer unreliability trespasses her relationship with Catherine. In her \u201crelationship\u201d to the reader of the book her words have to be read with a certain hint of suspicion. She has been known to lie, or say the things that are momentarily more convenient to her, she has done so to previous employers, Edgar for example; thus her words should not be assumed to be true as she might be telling Lockwood what she thinks is convenient for him to hear. Nelly is aware that Catherine does not love Edgar, yet she would rather see Edgar suffer than tell him Catherine does not love him. The fact that Nelly does not show herself to be resented or to have done anything wrong and at the same time all others do things is suspicious. Any human would feel resentment, sadness, dislike about something they did; Nelly\u2019s only demonstration of humanity is how she misses Hareton. Nelly shows to be herself as an almost-saint figure. Nelly herself is two faced, portrays a saint and caring person while her actions prove her wrong.","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[{"id":"30219561","body":"Thanks Daniel,
\n
\nWebster","dateCreated":"1289843347","smartDate":"Nov 15, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"davidgarethw","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/davidgarethw","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}}],"more":0}]},{"id":"30103317","dateCreated":"1289584429","smartDate":"Nov 12, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"MaFe1595","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/MaFe1595","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/davidgarethw-books-b.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/30103317"},"dateDigested":1531973869,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"Nelly Dean","description":"Nelly Dean
\n
\n In the novel by Emily Bronte, Wuthering Heights, it\u2019s easy to get caught in the love story and ignore other characters that have some meaning in the story. Nelly at the beginning comes across as a very motherly like servant to Lockwood, but in her story, she comes across as a different person. When telling the story she clearly despises Catherine. I\u2019ve said I do not love her, and rather relish her mortifying vanity now and then.\u201d(Pg. 69) Here she is very straight forward about her despise for Catherine. From that point on, she makes Catherine look like a bitch. I think that Nelly despises Catherine because she has a very strong attraction towards Heathcliff and is jealous of Catherine\u2019s relationship with Heathcliff. We see this also when Nelly is combing Catherine\u2019s hair, Heathcliff is in the room and he wants to know where Catherine is going to that evening. Nelly sees the distress in Heathcliff and she starts combing Catherine\u2019s hair very hard. \u201c\u2026Oh Nelly!...you\u2019ve combed my hair quite out of curl! That\u2019s enough, let me alone.\u201d (Pg. 67) In this scene, we see Ellen defending Heathcliff, or taking revenge from Catherine for making Heathcliff so distressed. We also see her affection, when Hindley comes home, and he\u2019s drunk. Nelly makes a motion with her hand, so that Heathcliff doesn\u2019t come in, and get into trouble. Here we see she cares about him and doesn\u2019t want him to get into a dispute with Hindley. We also see this when Catherine, Nelly, and Isabella are sitting down, and Heathcliff comes in. Catherine tells Heathcliff that there is someone in the room that likes him very much. Heathcliff immediately looks over to Nelly. We can infer that Heathcliff knows Nelly\u2019s feelings towards him. Also, we see that Nelly cares for Heathcliff, because she knows him well. When Catherine dies, she knew that she would find him by the tree and she knew what he would be doing.
\n
\n Despite her being so jealous and a bit revengeful towards Catherine, she leaves her feelings aside and knows her place and her job. When Catherine is ill, despite her clear despise for her, she stays up all night with Edgar Linton taking care of Catherine through her illness. There is certain warmth to Nelly. She takes care after Catherine, Heathcliff, and Lockwood. She comes through to me as a motherly like person. She defends Hareton from Hindley, the night he has been out drinking and almost kills him by dangling him from the staircase. She takes care of Lockwood when he gets sick from being out in the snow, and he takes care of Catherine through her illness.","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[{"id":"30219393","body":"Great Maya,
\n
\nThanks,
\n
\nWebster","dateCreated":"1289843249","smartDate":"Nov 15, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"davidgarethw","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/davidgarethw","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"30219445","body":"Sorry,
\n
\nI meant MaFe,
\n
\nThanks again,
\n
\nWebster","dateCreated":"1289843277","smartDate":"Nov 15, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"davidgarethw","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/davidgarethw","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"30245025","body":"Jajaja no problem! thank you","dateCreated":"1289861138","smartDate":"Nov 15, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"MaFe1595","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/MaFe1595","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}}],"more":0}]},{"id":"30094773","dateCreated":"1289577174","smartDate":"Nov 12, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"caro3arias","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/caro3arias","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/davidgarethw-books-b.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/30094773"},"dateDigested":1531973869,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"Nelly Dean ","description":"In her narrative, Nelly Dean tries to portray herself as an innocent bystander who just happened to witness this fascinating tale but she actually has a large part in it. She\u2019s manipulative because she sees it all but only distributes certain pieces to others. For example, when she witnessed Heathcliff and Catherine\u2019s fight in chapter 11, she informed Edgar about only snippets of it. \u201cI fancied it not to be very prejudicial to Mrs. Linton\u201d (110). This causes a huge fight between Edgar and Catherine because she accuses him of spying on her: \u201cWhat possessed him to turn listener? ... Had Edgar never gathered our conversation, he would never had been worse for it\u201d (113). Another example of her causing trouble is when she spies on Isabella and Heathcliff \u201cembracing\u201d and informs Catherine. This is the beginning of Catherine and Isabella\u2019s ruined relationship because of the jealousy it sparks in Catherine.
\n
\nNelly is not very loyal to her mistress and Mr. Linton. She disobeys their orders often. When Catherine orders her to tell Edgar that she is at risk of getting very sick when she throws a fit, Nelly directly disobeys her. \u201cI told him how she had resolved, previous to his coming, on exhibiting a fit of frenzy\u201d (115). Also, when Edgar Linton states many times how Heathcliff is never allowed to come into the house, she let\u2019s him in, against orders.
\n
\nNelly seems a busybody because she seems to include herself in every drama that happens in the book. At the beginning of the book she tries to reconcile Catherine and Heathcliff after Catherine returns from the Lintons\u2019. She insists on making Heathcliff \u201cgood\u201d and accuses him of making Catherine cry. It\u2019s not really any of her business to change Heathcliff, yet she takes that job upon herself. Also, when Catherine and Edgar are visiting and Catherine asks Nelly to leave, Nelly refuses, saying that Hindley instructed her not to. In reality, I think it is because she is nosy and wants to satisfy her own curiosity by spying on them. Nelly also goes to Wuthering Heights to check up on Hareton and has the intention on telling Hindley how Heathcliff is letting him go bad. Also, Nelly is the one who arranges Catherine and Heathcliff\u2019s last encounter, bringing Catherine Heathcliff\u2019s letter, and clearing the house for him to arrive. It is none of her business, yet she places herself in the middle of this little drama.
\n
\nI feel that Nelly is very fickle. At one moment she hates Catherine for pulling slapping her and in the next, she is giving her love advice on Edgar and Heathcliff. The same happens with Edgar. At first she claims he is weak \u201cand cried for Mamma at every turn and trembled if a country lad heaved his fist against [him]\u201d (55) but then she takes orders from him and treats him with respect.
\n
\nI don\u2019t like Nelly Dean because she is very intrusive, and bit manipulative and fickle.","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[{"id":"30219263","body":"Thanks Carolina,
\n
\nWebster","dateCreated":"1289843150","smartDate":"Nov 15, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"davidgarethw","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/davidgarethw","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}}],"more":0}]},{"id":"30089331","dateCreated":"1289572582","smartDate":"Nov 12, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"teagvest","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/teagvest","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/davidgarethw-books-b.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/30089331"},"dateDigested":1531973869,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"Nelly Dean","description":"Nelly Dean is a servant, working first for the Earnshaws and then for the Linton\u2019s, following Catherine. She grew up with Catherine and Heathcliff, the two star-crossed doomed lovers. They see her primarily as a servant, but they also confide in her. For example, Catherine once is talking with her in the kitchen and tells Nelly all about her agreeing to marry Edgar Linton and her passionate love for Heathcliff. Ordinarily, she would not talk about such personal things with any servant- she would only tell these things to someone trustworthy. Nelly, however, says these things over to Heathcliff, which shows that she\u2019s not quite trustworthy. They can twist her resolve and persuade her to do what they want, showing a lack of strength in character. She does, however, have very strong feelings and thoughts regarding events and people: she sees herself as a \u201cgiver of advice\u201d- she intervenes a lot in conversations in order to either support someone or denounce them. Nelly does not really like Catherine; she finds her spoiled and rotten and sometimes unbearable. \u201c\u2018Miss is dreadfully wayward, sir,\u2019 I called out. \u2018As bad as any marred child; you\u2019d better be riding home\u2019\u201d (Bronte 70). Edgar had been calling on Catherine for a while with the intention of marrying her and had not seen her \u201cgenuine disposition\u201d and believed her to be a prim, proper lady. After an episode where she had a tantrum, however, and after hitting him, Catherine revealed her true self to an astonished Edgar, who was duly warned by Nelly to reject Catherine. However, she feels pity for Heathcliff because she knows that he loves Catherine and that Catherine\u2019s true love lies in his direction, even though she was marrying someone else.
\n\u201c\u2018I see no reason why he shouldn\u2019t know, as well as you,\u2019 I returned; \u2018and if you are his choice, he\u2019ll be the most unfortunate creature that ever was born! As soon as you become Mrs. Linton, he loses friend, and love, and all! Have you considered how you\u2019ll bear the separation, and how he\u2019ll bear to be quite deserted in the world?\u2019\u201d (79).
\nHere Nelly tries to convey the utter pain that Heathcliff feels because of his losing Catherine: the two are so infinitely woven in each other\u2019s life and personality and soul that to be without the other would be torture for him. Nelly can understand his pain, meaning she has some degree of empathy.
\nShe is fairly reliable, in regard to narrating the story. She is a servant, and that mentality has been pounded into her since she came of age. Her duty is to serve her master\/mistress. She is accustomed to telling the truth, as lying would have gotten her severe punishment at Wuthering Heights with Hindley. Sometimes, however, she is a bit too blunt, for example the time when she was telling Hindley how much everyone hated him. Probably not a good idea\u2026","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[{"id":"30092889","body":"Thanks Teag,
\n
\nWebster","dateCreated":"1289575634","smartDate":"Nov 12, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"davidgarethw","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/davidgarethw","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}}],"more":0}]},{"id":"30078815","dateCreated":"1289542767","smartDate":"Nov 11, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"tammy_sev","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/tammy_sev","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/pic\/1285868666\/tammy_sev-lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/davidgarethw-books-b.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/30078815"},"dateDigested":1531973869,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"Nelly Dean character analysis","description":"In the book Wuthering Heights by Emily Bronte, Nelly Dean is the main narrator of the story, to understand the story itself we must learn about her. Nelly is the housekeeper who grew up with Catherine, Hindley and Heathcliff and knows the story of their lives \u201cI was almost always at Wuthering Heights; because my mother had nursed Mr. Hindley Earnshaw...and I got used to playing with the children: I ran errands too, and helped to make hay, and hung about the farm ready for anything that anybody would set me to,\u201d (pg. 35). Almost all of the characters on the book deeply trust her and that is why she knows everything. She knows how Heathcliff treated Isabella, how Heathcliff felt for Catherine, how Catherine felt for Heathcliff, she knows what the characters feel since they tell her about it. She also lived in both places Wuthering Heights and Thrushcross Grange she knows what was going on, on both houses, so she knows both sides of the story. We could say that she is a trustful narrator, but in the story her own feelings affect the story itself and also we are not sure whether or not what she\u2019s saying is true. One day in the kitchen Catherine came, and as many characters in the book she trusted Nelly, and she says, \u201cNelly will you keep a secret for me?\u201d (pg.75). Catherine goes on talking about Edgar and how he asked him to marry her. Nelly saw how Heathcliff was listening to their conversation and she didn\u2019t mind telling Catherine. It is evident that Nelly hates Catherine sometimes; in this case she wanted Heathcliff to discover what kind of person Catherine is and that is why he lets him listen. The way she feels for Catherine affects how she tells the story and the reader gets ideas about her that maybe are to exaggerate. For example once she said \u201cshe put us all past our patience fifty times and oftener in a day; from the hour she came down stairs, till the hour she went to bed,\u201d (pg. 98). Nelly is telling us that Catherine was annoying and didn\u2019t do anything more than being a vex, she made everyone\u2019s life miserable. Since Nelly nearly hates Catherine her feelings Could influence what she is saying and maybe what she says about her could be a little exaggerated. But she could also talk good about other characters since she loves them, one such as Hareton, she was like a mother to him. We can see how she feels about him when she is leaving Wuthering Heights. \u201c it\u2019s very queer to think it, but I\u2019ve no doubt he has completely forgotten all about Ellen Dean, and that he was ever more than all the world to her..\u201d (pg. 87). Throughout the book she talks good about Hareton, this makes us doubt her credibility since she loved him so much. I could relate to her since she dislikes Catherine as well as me, but then again I got my opinion from her narrative, and who knows, she could have manipulated the story to make Catherine seem selfish.","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[{"id":"30089893","body":"Thanks Tamara,
\n
\nWebster","dateCreated":"1289573093","smartDate":"Nov 12, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"davidgarethw","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/davidgarethw","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}}],"more":0}]},{"id":"30075669","dateCreated":"1289533272","smartDate":"Nov 11, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"ad.ri","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/ad.ri","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/pic\/1283992059\/ad.ri-lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/davidgarethw-books-b.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/30075669"},"dateDigested":1531973869,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"Nelly","description":"Emily Bronte deserves the appraise of all readers who appreciate her novel, Wuthering Heights. This classic is well known as a love story between two strong characters and the miseries their love forces them to live. However, if it is delved into more closely, there is a third strong character hidden behind the words, Nelly herself. She is meddlesome in her masters\u00b4 affairs, whoever they may be, yet she has a very motherly affection towards the people she cares about, which prompts other people to trust her. After Edgar asks Catherine to marry him, she goes to Nelly for advice. The letter sent by Isabella after she marries Heathcliff and starts to live at Wuthering Heights, starts with a message for Edgar and Catherine but the \u201cremainder of the letter is for [Nelly] alone,\u201d (132). Nelly has developed a stronger fondness for Heathcliff than for her masters, and pity has softened her heart towards him. Before Heathcliff leaves for three years, Heathcliff makes an effort to appear clean and civilized before Catherine to stray her eyes from refined Edgar. He trustily puts his image in Nelly\u2019s hands, yet his efforts are overlooked by Catherine when that same day Edgar comes to the Heights. Nelly\u2019s heart surely faltered to see how Heathcliff\u2019s hopes dwindled and more so when Catherine is tells her about Edgar\u2019s proposal and mentions that she would never marry Heathcliff. After three years of dubious affairs, Heathcliff returns to the Heights a revenge-driven man, ready to do anything necessary to win Cathy\u2019s affections and get back at Edgar. Ellen\u2019s affections have not diminished and, even after seeing what cruelties he was capable off, she still helps Heathcliff when he wants to see Catherine, the very day before she dies. She hesitates, \u201c[she] argued and complained and flatly refused him fifty times\u201d (149) not only because she is worried about Catherine\u2019s health, but mostly because she is afraid for his safety. She agrees to help him on a day Edgar is not there. It is not mere regard, for she also pities. As she walked out of Thrushcross Grange to tell Heathcliff of the death of his \u201csoul\u201d, she is \u201cweeping as much for him as for her- [she did] pity creature that have none of the feeling either for themselves or for others,\u201d (160).
\n We must remember this is a gossip hidden behind pretty words, and the perspective is mostly biased. She can hide facts that seem unnecessary or opposing her opinion, as well as her own actions. Though she veils her instigative actions behind innocent thought, her reasons had a purpose. When Catherine and Heathcliff start arguing about Isabella\u2019s fondness for Heathcliff, she initiates a larger and significant discussion by including Edgar as well. In a manner of speaking, Nelly runs part of the plot, leading to Cathy\u2019s death, but conceals her role, perhaps out of guilt and shame.","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[{"id":"30089797","body":"Thanks Adrianna,
\n
\nWebster","dateCreated":"1289573009","smartDate":"Nov 12, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"davidgarethw","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/davidgarethw","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}}],"more":0}]},{"id":"30062961","dateCreated":"1289521712","smartDate":"Nov 11, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"kelseygymnastics","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/kelseygymnastics","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/pic\/1222807559\/kelseygymnastics-lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/davidgarethw-books-b.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/30062961"},"dateDigested":1531973869,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"Nelly Dean","description":"The role of Nelly Dean in the novel Wuthering Heights by Emily Bronte is one of a narrator. We see the story of Catherine and Heathcliff through her eyes, as she tells it to Lockwood.
\nNelly Dean is manipulative, and fond of gossiping. She is always in the room, listening and relays the information that she hears to others at her will. After Heathcliff becomes aware of Isabella\u2019s affection for him and he kisses her in the courtyard, Nelly conveys this to Edgar. He only inquires where Catherine is, but she \u201c[relates] to him the scene in the court, and, as near as [she] dared, the whole subsequent dispute,\u201d (page 110). I believe that Nelly is a gossip. After all, she is telling all of this to Heathcliff, and much of this could be considered personal. She relates with gusto every little detail, even in the beating of Hindley by Heathcliff. She says that Isabella told her that \u201cthe knife, in springing back, closed into its owner\u2019s wrist. Heathcliff pulled it away by main force, slitting up the flesh as it passed on, and thrust it dripping into his pocket\u2026 The ruffian kicked and trampled on him, and dashed his head repeatedly against the flags,\u201d (page 171). She could have simply related the fact that Heathcliff beat up Hindley, but she instead went into detail. When Mr. Lockwood asks Nelly to tell him the story, it would have been more proper had she refused or just summarized the tale, but she instead says, \u201cOh, certainly, sir!\u201d (page 34).
\n Others ignore her and demean her. She listens to everything because she is the servant- no one pays any attention to her. She is present in every scene and everyone confides in her. They do not recognize her for what she really is. During one instance in which Heathcliff and Catherine argue, Nelly is combing Catherine\u2019s hair. She listens to the conversation, and grows agitated by Catherine\u2019s cruel treatment of Heathcliff. Her combing of Catherine\u2019s hair becomes rougher, until Catherine cries \u201cOh, Nelly \u2026 you\u2019ve combed my hair quite out of curl! That\u2019s enough; let me alone,\u201d (page 67).
\n She feels her role in the narrative is minimal, although I am of the opinion that her actions influence the plot. As I said previously, she tells Edgar of the \u201cscene in the courtyard\u201d (page 110). This causes Edgar to explode at Heathcliff and run him out of the house. When Heathcliff wants to visit Catherine, Nelly acts as his messenger and creates circumstances suitable for him to visit: she waits until Edgar is gone, and asks the remaining servant to fetch oranges.
\nWe cannot completely rely on Nelly\u2019s account because she has a crush on Heathcliff. When Isabella is telling Nelly that the man she married is a monster and that she would be glad if he killed himself, Nelly stands up for Heathcliff. \u201cHush, hush! He\u2019s a human being! \u2026 Be more charitable; there are worse men than he is yet!\u201d she says (page 166). This causes her to dislike Catherine, for she is the cause of much of this anguish. This feeling is then projected onto the reader by her description of her mistress. She says, \u201cI\u2019ve said I did not love her,\u201d (page 69). Also, any story told in a framed narrative is not entirely reliable because the narrator is telling a story, usually secondhand. For example, the story of Hindley\u2019s beating was witnessed by Isabella, who tells Nelly, who tells us. It is a literary form of the game \u2018telephone\u2019, and the readers are the last people in line.
\n Nelly Dean is a character that affects how the story is told, and what we receive in that game of telephone. She is the cause of many a blunder in the telephone line, because she can tell the story any way that she sees fit.","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[{"id":"30089411","body":"Thanks Kelsey,
\n
\nWebster","dateCreated":"1289572650","smartDate":"Nov 12, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"davidgarethw","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/davidgarethw","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}}],"more":0}]}],"more":true},"comments":[]},"http":{"code":200,"status":"OK"},"redirectUrl":null,"javascript":null,"notices":{"warning":[],"error":[],"info":[],"success":[]}}