{"content":{"sharePage":{"page":0,"digests":[{"id":"29384325","dateCreated":"1288573206","smartDate":"Oct 31, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"marinacoccaro","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/marinacoccaro","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/davidgarethw-books-b.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/29384325"},"dateDigested":1531973875,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"themes!","description":"Two prominent themes in the novel Wuthering Heights are passion and revenge. It seems as if most of the important happenings that take place in this book revolve around these themes, turning them essential in order to understand more the development of the story. Passion is present since the moment Heathcliff steps into the Earnshaw home. When Catherine sets eyes on him, she instantaneously feels an attraction and can\u2019t stop thinking how cute and handsome her new \u201cbrother\u201d is. Their similarities push them together each time more, and it is inevitable for them not to end up falling in love. "Nelly, I am Heathcliff! He's always, always in my mind: not as a pleasure, any more than I am always a pleasure to myself, but as my own being." Chapter 9. Catherine admitting the fact that she is Heathcliff shows us readers how strong their relationship is, and how passionate she feels toward him. After all, it\u2019s hard for someone to consider itself identical to another person, and even harder when this person is possibly the greatest love of this someone\u2019s life. She is accepting his flaws and qualities both at the same time. Since little kids, Catherine and Heathcliff are inseparable, and their love gradually grows as the story develops. "It would degrade me to marry Heathcliff now; so he shall never know how I love him: and that, not because he's handsome, Nelly, but because he's more myself than I am. Whatever our souls are made of, his and mine are the same; and Linton's is as different as a moonbeam from lightning, or frost from fire." Chapter 9. They experience the process of changing from a kid to an adult together, and this transition in their lives make one extremely relevant to another. Revenge is also present in most of this novel as well. When Mr. Earnshaw takes Heathcliff home from Liverpool, jealousy sparks within Hindley. The fact he thinks his dad\u2019s attention is now turned towards Heatchliff makes him feel threatened by his new brother, and he is constantly trying to make him feel inferior and out of place. "I'm trying to settle how I shall pay Hindley back. I don't care how long I wait, if I can only do it at last. I hope he will not die before I do!"Chapter 7. Heathcliff\u2019s actions are constantly trying to make him feel superior to the Lintons and Hindley and bringing these two families down. The entire rancor he kept to himself when he was a child leads him to this unceasing feeling of trying to prove himself superior to everyone else. Since he suffered prejudice when smaller for belonging to the streets and having a miserable background, his heart seems to be filled with hate and the desire of revenge towards everyone that rejected and mistreated him. That is possibly what lead him to be lonely and unloved in the future.","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[{"id":"29384367","body":"Mr. Webster, I was in aasca so I was allowed to post my response today.
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\nThank you!","dateCreated":"1288573249","smartDate":"Oct 31, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"marinacoccaro","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/marinacoccaro","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"29403299","body":"Thanks Marina,
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\nWebster","dateCreated":"1288621203","smartDate":"Nov 1, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"davidgarethw","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/davidgarethw","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}}],"more":0}]},{"id":"29330205","dateCreated":"1288387569","smartDate":"Oct 29, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"cristinarojas1","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/cristinarojas1","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/davidgarethw-books-b.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/29330205"},"dateDigested":1531973875,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"themes exposed in Wuthering Heights","description":"The first few chapters of \u201cWuthering Heights\u201d expose love, jealousy, and social inequality, which are crucial themes present throughout the entire novel. Jealousy is present at many levels in the novel, not only as revenge but also as misplaced emotions. When Mr. Earnshaw brought Heathcliff back from Liverpool, his love and care for him grew stronger, yet inadvertently this devotion towards Heathcliff was depreciating the quality and quantity of attention he should have been devoting to his own son. This caused Hindley to accumulate feelings of hatred and reproach towards Heathcliff. \u201c He drove him from their company to the servants, deprived him from the instructions of the curate, and insisted that he should labour out of doors instead,\u201d (Page 44) Heathcliff shows the most classic type of jealousy, romantic jealousy, when Catherine arrives to Wuthering Heights with Edgar. He feels displaced and confused by Catherine\u2019s preference of Edgar, which causes him to burst out his rage and envy towards Edgar. \u201cBut Heathcliff\u2019s violent nature was not prepared to endure the appearance of impertinence from one whom he seemed to hate, even then, as his rival.\u201d(Page 57) All the themes of the story are intertwined; social inequality is indirectly present as one of the causes of Heathcliff\u2019s jealousy, since Catherine chose Edgar as the better candidate despite the fact that her love towards Heathcliff was much more intense. Social inequality also takes a leading role when the Linton\u2019s find Heathcliff and Catherine during their \u201cunofficial\u201d visit to Thrushcross Garage. Even though Mr. Earnshaw considered Heathcliff his own son, the Linton\u2019s automatically demeaned him just because of the uncertainty of his background. \u201cA wicked boy, at all events,\u2019 remarked the old lady, and quite unfit for a decent house!\u201d (Page 49) Social inequality is also reflected through the education each character is given. When Hindley was sent off to college, he and Heathcliff were at the same social status; Mr. Earnshaw treated both of them like his children, even though Heathcliff wasn\u2019t. But when Hindley returned from college, he was a changed man, and his education gave him the power over Heathcliff and the power to deny Heathcliff a proper education. At the time, one of the major differences between the upper and the working class was a good education, denying Heathcliff from having one, enabled Hindley to control Heathcliff\u2019s place in society and degrade him into the working class. Love as well as jealousy, takes many forms throughout the novel, there is the passionate love between Heathcliff and Catherine, and there is the more almost friend-like relationship between Catherine and Edgar. The passionate love between Heathcliff and Catherine seems to be the center of the story, their love for each other causes other problems to arise in the novel, it also becomes almost a \u201cplatonic\u201d love, since they love each other deeply and believe they are identical, yet because of social and economic reasons they can\u2019t be together and Catherine marries Edgar.","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[{"id":"29403181","body":"Thanks Christina,
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\nWebster","dateCreated":"1288621110","smartDate":"Nov 1, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"davidgarethw","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/davidgarethw","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}}],"more":0}]},{"id":"29323265","dateCreated":"1288377994","smartDate":"Oct 29, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"ellagicacid","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/ellagicacid","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/pic\/1343664898\/ellagicacid-lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/davidgarethw-books-b.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/29323265"},"dateDigested":1531973876,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"Wuthering Heights","description":"Themes in "Wuthering Heights"
\nElla Nugent
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\nOne of the main themes in \u201cWuthering Heights\u201d is jealousy. \u201cThe young master had learnt to regard his father as an oppressor rather than a friend, and Heathcliff as a usurper of his father\u2019s affections and his privileges, and he grew bitter with brooding over these injuries\u201d (pg 37). This quote is about Hindley and how he is extremely jealous of Heathcliff because he is Mr. Earnshaw\u2019s favourite. Hindley is ridiculously jealous of their relationship and wants revenge on Heathcliff. Heathcliff, on the other hand, is very jealous of Mr. Edgar Linton. \u201cNothing- only look at the almanack on that wall... The crosses are for the evenings you have spent with the Lintons, the dots for those spent with me.\u201d (Heathcliff, pg 67). This shows how jealous Heathcliff is of Edgar and how much time he spends with Catherine, so jealous that he began marking each day off on a calendar.
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\nAnd of course, one of the strongest, most recurring themes in \u201cWuthering Heights\u201d is love. "We laughed outright at the petted things\u2026 When would you catch me wishing to have what Catherine wanted?" (Heathcliff, pg 47). Heathcliff is much more subtle than Catherine, but it is still obvious that Heathcliff loves her. Even as a child, Heathcliff says he wouldn\u2019t ever want anything Catherine ever wanted. He is already sacrificing for her. "I refused to go without Cathy\u2026 The curtains were still looped up at one corner, and I resumed my station as a spy, because, if Catherine had wished to return, I intended shattering their great glass pane to a million of fragments, unless they let her out" (Heathcliff, pg 49). This just proves his further dedication and love for Catherine. He tries to stay to look after Catherine until he is forcibly removed from the property. Catherine\u2019s love for Heathcliff is also very obvious even as a young girl. "She lifted a mouthful to her lips; then set it down again; her cheeks flushed, and the tears gushed over them. She slipped her fork to the floor, and hastily dived under the cloth to conceal her emotion. I did not call her unfeeling for long, for I perceived she was in purgatory throughout the day\u2026" (Nellie, pg 58). Catherine cannot bear the thought that Heathcliff will be flogged, so much to the point that she cries about it. If she didn\u2019t love Heathcliff, she wouldn\u2019t have cared. She also is desperate to go visit him, so desperate that Nellie notices the poor girl is in \u201cpurgatory throughout the day\u201d and \u201cwearying to find an opportunity\u201d to visit him. Even as children, Catherine and Heathcliff already love one another deeply. A few years later, their love is as strong as ever. Catherine not only says \u201cso he shall never know how I love him [Heathcliff]\u201d (pg 78), but she also states: "\u2026whereas if I marry Linton, I can aid Heathcliff to rise, and place him out of my brother's power" (Catherine, pg 79). Catherine is willing to marry Edgar just to get Heathcliff out of Hindley\u2019s cruel power and says that it is the best motive of hers to marry Mr. Linton.","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[{"id":"29402999","body":"Thanks Ella,
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\nWebster","dateCreated":"1288620971","smartDate":"Nov 1, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"davidgarethw","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/davidgarethw","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}}],"more":0}]},{"id":"29319939","dateCreated":"1288374608","smartDate":"Oct 29, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"luisuarez","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/luisuarez","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/pic\/1302804674\/luisuarez-lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/davidgarethw-books-b.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/29319939"},"dateDigested":1531973876,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"WUTHERING HEIGHTS themes","description":"In the story of Wuthering Heights, a lot of themes are present. The story revolts around two main themes, which appear to be present throughout what we\u2019ve read so far. Catherine, a main character, is a person that is cynical and is secretly in love with Heathcliff. His love for Heatcliff cannot occur because it seems as it is a prohibited love, in other words a platonic. In the other hand, Heathcliff is a character that is in love with Catherine, but he doesn\u2019t tell her. One theme present in the story of \u201cWuthering Heights\u201d is dishonesty. We see this in the actions of Catherine, because even though she loves Heathcliff, she marries Edgar because she wanted wealth and to be in a higher social class. This shows that this story has the theme of dishonesty present, because Catherine is not being honest with the people around her, and she is simply using Edgar to her benefit. Catherine \u201cmanipulates\u201d in this case, for she is a character that appears to be self-centered, because she wants the benefit for herself only. For example, when Heathcliff and Catherine are discussing, and Catherine says \u201c\u2026 Meantime, thank you for telling me your sister-in-law\u2019s secret: I swear I\u2019ll make the most of it. And stand you aside\u201d (pg 109).This shows that she is going to \u201cuse\u201d marriage and \u201ctake the most of it\u201d, or in other words use it only for money; therefore Catherine is a dishonest character because she is telling Edgar that she loves him. In the other hand, if we have a theme present in a novel, we also have its opposite; in this case honesty. Honesty appears in this novel with Heathcliff, for he seems to be an honest character that accustoms to tell everything upfront, he doesn\u2019t reserve anything.
\nAnother theme present in this book, is the effect of love. Heathcliff and Catherine have a prohibited love, even though they both love each other. Catherine is seeking wealth, while Heathcliff wants to settle down with someone he loves. The whole novel is based on implications of love between Heathcliff and Catherine, therefore it\u2019s a main theme. The effect of love in this novel is profound, for the characters even say it. "It would degrade me to marry Heathcliff now; so he shall never know how I love him: \u2026, but because he's more of myself than I am\u201d (pg 78) This is said by Catherine, and shows that the effect of love made him realize that Heathcliff is more herself than she is. Therefore the main themes until now is dishonesty and the effect of love.","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[{"id":"29402859","body":"Thanks Luis,
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\nWebster","dateCreated":"1288620863","smartDate":"Nov 1, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"davidgarethw","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/davidgarethw","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}}],"more":0}]},{"id":"29317053","dateCreated":"1288371907","smartDate":"Oct 29, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"gmurphy3","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/gmurphy3","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/davidgarethw-books-b.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/29317053"},"dateDigested":1531973876,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"Themes","description":"Three themes that are prominent in \u201cWuthering Heights\u201d by Emily Bronte are love, revenge, and social class. Love is a highly important theme because of the deep love between Catherine and Heathcliff. They have always been extremely fond of each other since their childhood but as they grow up, their love grows too. However, there is also a complicated love triangle because Catherine also falls in love with Edgar after spending time with him at Thrushcross Grange. She decides she wants to marry Edgar instead of Heathcliff. "It would degrade me to marry Heathcliff now; so he shall never know how I love him: and that, not because he's handsome, Nelly, but because he's more myself than I am. Whatever our souls are made of, his and mine are the same\u201d (Ch 9) Catherine says this when she confesses her love for Edgar and her decision to marry him instead of Heathcliff to Nelly. She says that she and Heathcliff are the same person, they are more than just soulmates. She continues to express her love for Heathcliff, even after she is married. When she hears the news that Heathcliff is to return to Wuthering Heights after being gone for three years, she says to Nelly, \u201cNelly, I am Heathcliff! He\u2019s always, always in my mind.\u201d (Pg 80)
\nAnother theme that comes out in this situation is social class. Catherine decides not to marry Heathcliff for the following reasons; Edgar is much richer and higher on the social scale than Heathcliff, so it would benefit her to marry him. Also, she knows that if she marries Edgar, all his fortune could help Heathcliff start his own life and get away from Hindley.
\nRevenge is another important theme in this story. The characters are constantly seeking vengeance on one another. When Hindley returns to Wuthering Heights after the death of his father, he immediately wants to get back at Heathcliff. He had always been jealous of Heathcliff because Mr. Earnshaw always seemed to favor Heathcliff over Hindley. \u201cHe drove him from their company to the servants, deprived him of the instructions of the curate, and insisted that he should labour out of doors instead, compelling him to do so as hard as any other lad on the farm.\u201d (Pg 44) Another instance of revenge in the story is when Heathcliff returns to Wuthering Heights after he had disappeared for three years. He came back very rich and high class. He wanted to get revenge on everyone who had done him wrong when he had been there before. First, he wanted revenge on Catherine because she broke his heart by marrying Edgar. He also wanted revenge on Hindley because of how he treated him.","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[{"id":"29402719","body":"Thanks Grace,
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\nWebster","dateCreated":"1288620764","smartDate":"Nov 1, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"davidgarethw","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/davidgarethw","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}}],"more":0}]},{"id":"29291591","dateCreated":"1288327008","smartDate":"Oct 28, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"eli-picado","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/eli-picado","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/pic\/1283475869\/eli-picado-lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/davidgarethw-books-b.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/29291591"},"dateDigested":1531973876,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"Themes in Wuthering Heights","description":"Two of the prominent themes in Wuthering Heights, by Emily Bronte, are love and jealousy. Both of these themes are relevant in the novel because they are an important part in the development of the plot of the story. Love is a key theme because Ellen\u00b4s narration in the first chapters is mainly centered in the growing love between Catherine and Heathcliff, and in the later chapters, in Catherine\u00b4s struggle when choosing between Heathcliff, the man she fell in love with since she was a child, and Edgar, a man she just met, but whose life style is extremely attractive to her. When Edgar proposes to her, she describes Ellen Dean her decision for a future without Heathcliff, even though she is in love with him. This is how she does so: \u201cI\u2019ve no more business to marry Edgar Linton than I have to be in heaven; and if the wicked man in there had not brought Heathcliff so low, I shouldn't have thought of it. It would degrade me to marry Heathcliff now; so he shall never know how I love him: and that, not because he's handsome, Nelly, but because he's more myself than I am. Whatever our souls are made of, his and mine are the same; and Linton's is as different as a moonbeam from lightning, or frost from fire,"(page 78). Catherine loves Heathcliff, but she can\u00b4t marry him. Heathcliff listens to Catherine and Ellen\u00b4s conversation and leaves Wuthering Heights for 3 years. Heathcliff\u2019s love for Catherine makes him leave Wuthering Heights, influencing greatly the developing of the plot of the story. Another example of love as a prominent theme is one of Catherine\u00b4s reasons to marry Edgar. This is how Catherine explains herself to Ellen: \u201cNelly, I see now, you think me a selfish wretch; but did it never strike you that if Heathcliff and I married we should be beggars? Whereas, if I marry Linton, I can aid Heathcliff to rise, and place him out of my brother's power?,\u201d(page 79). Catherine believes that marrying Edgar, she will be capable of helping Heathcliff, so from one perspective, Catherine marries Edgar because she loves Heathcliff and wants to help him. However, despite all this, for me jealousy is the most relevant theme of the novel because this theme is what makes the whole story possible. For example, at the really beginning of the story this theme is present when Mr. Earnshaw brings Heathcliff to the house and starts favoring him, and these are Hindley\u00b4s attitude: \u201cthe young master had learnt to regard his father as an oppressor rather than a friend, and Heathcliff as a usurper of his father\u00b4s affections and his privileges, and he grew bitter with brooding over these injuries,\u201d (page 37). All the events that happen later in the story were derived from Hindley\u00b4s bitter feelings for Heathcliff that this jealousy caused.","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[{"id":"29304977","body":"Thanks Elizabeth,
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\nWebster","dateCreated":"1288362381","smartDate":"Oct 29, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"davidgarethw","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/davidgarethw","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}}],"more":0}]},{"id":"29287847","dateCreated":"1288320657","smartDate":"Oct 28, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"fabig1","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/fabig1","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/pic\/1229012865\/fabig1-lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/davidgarethw-books-b.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/29287847"},"dateDigested":1531973876,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"Themes","description":" One of the predominant themes in Wuthering Heights is passion and love. Catherine and Heathcliff\u2019s passion to one another throughout the chapters is pretty extraordinary and it almost makes it seem like the center and support of the novel itself. Also, Catherine says how she herself is Heathcliff and makes the love seem quite different than what most people would think. Also, another theme that is present is the effects of the obsessive love between them. Also, there is jealousy because is jealous of Heathcliff and Heathcliff is jealous of Edgar Linton because he is taking Catherine and is going to marry her and take her away from him. There is also more love in the plot because Catherine is starting a relationship with Edgar Linton and that is tearing her inside because she can\u2019t choose who to love. She also says how Heathcliff is her, basically saying that the love between them is more than flesh, that it is deep inside and has to do with their souls and beings. The love is so pure that it almost makes it seem asexual love like if they were one with another and nothing else mattered, but there is still Edgar Linton in the way and the man who Catherine chooses will make the story turn itself around and change it completely. It is quite interesting to see how much Linton and Heatcliff hate each other just because of the obsessive love that they both have towards Catherine. I think that they are trying to get something that will last very little time and will give them a deep and grievous remorse that will destroy them both later on in the novel. Another theme that is present in the novel is revenge. \u201c"I'm trying to settle how I shall pay Hindley back. \u201cI don't care how long I wait, if I can only do it at last. I hope he will not die before I do!\u201d This quote shows us the extremeness that Heathcliff does just to protect his lover Catherine. Just because Edgar said something about her head, he is already planning his revenge on him. Then there is jealousy, \u201cThe young master had learnt to regard his father as an oppressor rather than a friend, and Heathcliff as an usurper of his father\u2019s affections and his privileges.\u201d This quote shows how Hindley is jealous that his father cares more about Heathcliff rather than him and that already, makes issues with the two characters. Lastly, when Catherine describes each man that she is in love with, the author is trying to give us a good picture and a reason why she is suffering so much and battling herself from within. \u201c,\u201dMy love for Linton is like the foliage in the woods: time will change it, I'm well aware, as winter changes the trees. My love for Heathcliff resembles the eternal rocks beneath: a source of little visible delight, but necessary.\u201d The words she uses to describe shows us how she really wants to decide but cannot get herself to do it.","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[{"id":"29304673","body":"Thanks Fabian,
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\nWebster","dateCreated":"1288362281","smartDate":"Oct 29, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"davidgarethw","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/davidgarethw","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}}],"more":0}]},{"id":"29268913","dateCreated":"1288304600","smartDate":"Oct 28, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"lottej95","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/lottej95","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/davidgarethw-books-b.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/29268913"},"dateDigested":1531973877,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"lotte jansen wiki question 9","description":"The most prominent themes that are encompassed in chapters 1-12 in \u201cWuthering Heights\u201d include never-ending love, revenge, prejudice, and jealousy.
\nRevenge is a prominent theme in the novel. After several years of torment and abuse from the Earnshaw family, Heathcliff admits that he plans to get revenge. When Edgar Linton talks about Heathcliff\u2019s untidy hair, Heathcliff cannot take any more abuse and starts scolding him until he leaves. "I'm trying to settle how I shall pay Hindley back. \u201cI don't care how long I wait, if I can only do it at last. I hope he will not die before I do!\u201d (chapter 7). Also, when Mr. Earnshaw dies and Hindley takes over, Hindley decides to get back at Heathcliff by forcing him to work on the fields as a servant, instead of as a family member. \u201cHe drove him from their company to the servants, deprived him of all instructions of curate, and insisted that he should labor outdoors instead, compelling him to do so as hard as any other lad on the farm\u201d (chapter 6) This particular event is one of many that leads to Heathcliff\u2019s desire for revenge.
\nPrejudice is also a recognizable theme. From the first time Heathcliff was introduced to the Earnshaw family, he has been harshly criticized for being different than the rest of the children especially by Mrs. Earnshaw. \u201cI was frightened and Mrs.Earnshaw was reading to fling it out of the doors: she did fly up, asking how he could fashion to bring that gipsy brat into the house, when they had their own bairns to feed and fend for?\u201d (chapter 4). Because Heathcliff looked unkept and came off of the streets, they started assuming false things about him.
\nJealousy is a major theme in the first 12 chapters. In the beginning, Hindley is immensely jealous of Mr. Earnshaw\u2019s admiration for Heathcliff. Mr.Earnshaw also feels like Heathcliff is more like a son than Hindley. \u201cThe young master had learnt to regard his father as an oppressor rather than a friend, and Heathcliff as an usurper of his father\u2019s affections and his privileges\u201d (chapter 3).
\nNever-ending love is another important theme that is recognized throughout the chapters. Heathcliff and Catherine have a very abstruse romance for each other. Neither of them admit their love for each other. Catherine gets engaged to Edgar but she realizes that Heathcliff is her true soul mate. This leaves Heathcliff very upset and he decides to leave Wuthering Heights. Catherine, however, does reveal her affection for Heathcliff to Nelly. \u201cHe shall never know how I love him; and that, not because he\u2019s handsome, Nelly, but because he\u2019s more myself than I am. Whatever our souls are made of, his and mine are the same, and is as different as a moonbeam from lightning, or frost from fire\u201d (chapter 9).
\nOverall, the most important themes in the chapters are never-ending love, jealousy, prejudice, and revenge.","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[{"id":"29304445","body":"Great Lotte,
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\nThanks,
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\nWebster","dateCreated":"1288362182","smartDate":"Oct 29, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"davidgarethw","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/davidgarethw","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}}],"more":0}]},{"id":"29217747","dateCreated":"1288237711","smartDate":"Oct 27, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"alabuda","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/alabuda","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/davidgarethw-books-b.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/29217747"},"dateDigested":1531973877,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"Themes","description":"The two major themes that are present in \u201cWuthering Heights\u201d are love and revenge. The plot of the novel is based on these two topics. First, we have the growing love and passion between Catherine and Heathcliff. The two characters grow up together and unknowingly fell for each other. Yet, Catherine also likes Edgar Linton; her neighbor. Finally, he decides to propose to Catherine. In Chapter IX Catherine confesses to Nelly that Edgar asked her for marriage, but she is unsure of what to do. She finds difficulties in choosing between Heathcliff and Linton, \u201cIt would degrade me to marry Heathcliff now; so he shall never know how I love him; and that, not because he\u2019s handsome, Nelly, but because he\u2019s more myself than I am. Whatever our souls are made of, his and mine are the same, and [Edgar\u2019s] is as different as a moonbeam from lightning, or frost from fire.\u201d (pg.78) Catherine declares that Heathcliff is her; that they are sharing the same soul. She is torn apart inside, because she cannot choose between her loved ones. This example of love is so important for the novel because Catherine\u2019s decision will be plot-changing. Here, Catherine describes how she pictures her love for the two men that she adores. It gives the reader a great picture of how she is battling with herself about which man to marry,\u201dMy love for Linton is like the foliage in the woods: time will change it, I'm well aware, as winter changes the trees. My love for Heathcliff resembles the eternal rocks beneath: a source of little visible delight, but necessary. Nelly, I am Heathcliff! He's always, always in my mind: not as a pleasure, any more than I am always a pleasure to myself, but as my own being.\u201d (pg.80)Catherine loves Heathcliff deeply but says that she accepts Edgar because he is rich and well-placed in the social rank. This unhappy conflict of love changes the plot of the novel completely, and leads the reader into another theme \u2013 revenge. When Mr. Earnshaw, Catherine\u2019s father, dies Hindley takes over Wuthering Heights and seeks revenge on Heathcliff by making him one of the servants,\u201dHindley became tyrannical. A few words from her [Catherine]\u2026were enough to rouse in him all his [Hindley\u2019s] old hatred of the boy. He drove him from their company to the servants, deprived him of all instructions of curate, and insisted that he should labor outdoors instead, compelling him to do so as hard as any other lad on the farm\u201d (pg. 44). Hindley is mad that his father treated the Gypsy as a part of the family. Now, with revenge as his motive, he is \u201csending Heathcliff to the place he belongs to.\u201d Overall, the two themes of love and revenge shape the plot of the novel "Wuthering Heights".","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[{"id":"29247763","body":"Great Agnieska,
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\nYou display some sophisticated thinking here... this is quite well-done. I would just like you to consider something.... What do you think regarding Cathy's seeing the herself and Heathcliff as one being? Is that 'normal' love, the type of feeling that she may feel for Edgar? What does she mean when she expresses herself this way? How do you think she intends for Nelly to take it? How might Emily Bronte have felt we might take it?
\nI ask you this difficult questions because you did such a good job on the response that I want to push you a little more.
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\nThanks,
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\nWebster","dateCreated":"1288285673","smartDate":"Oct 28, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"davidgarethw","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/davidgarethw","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"29260015","body":"Thank you,
\nThe love that Cathy feels for Heathcliff is definitely not a \u201cnormal\u201d love. My assumptions are that Cathy loves Heathcliff so deeply that she thinks they are one person; that they cannot live without each other. It is a feeling so strong that she has an idea that they both share the same soul. They are both part of such an unconditional, pure love, yet Cathy is unsure who to spend the rest of her life with. She has a crush on Edgar; a basic feeling. That\u2019s why she describes her \u201clove\u201d to Edgar as a changeable aspect. She is willing to marry him because she knows that he is very rich, handsome and that she will become \u201ca lady\u201d by his side. Heathcliff cannot provide that for her and that\u2019s what is \u201ckilling\u201d Cathy. She has a hard time choosing between a true love and money. I assume that Cathy tells her secret to Nelly because she wants Nelly to convince her to marry Heathcliff. That\u2019s why when she states that she accepts Linton she asks Nelly if she has made a right choice. Cathy is torn apart and she needs someone to convince her that her decisions are right; that is Nelly\u2019s job in this conversation. Emily Bronte probably wanted us to feel the complexity of this problem. She might have thought that the readers can be both sure that Cathy prefers Heathcliff deeply inside, but she is tempted by the Edgar\u2019s money and his social class status.
\nAs complicated as it might seem, that is my idea of what this problem is about.
\nI hope you are not confused Mr. Webster. I did my best trying to explain what is going on in my mind.
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\nThank you,
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\nAgnieszka","dateCreated":"1288295725","smartDate":"Oct 28, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"alabuda","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/alabuda","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"29304351","body":"You did a great job, Agnieska,
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\nThanks,
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\nWebster","dateCreated":"1288362075","smartDate":"Oct 29, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"davidgarethw","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/davidgarethw","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}}],"more":0}]},{"id":"29217183","dateCreated":"1288237003","smartDate":"Oct 27, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"mariangel94","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/mariangel94","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/davidgarethw-books-b.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/29217183"},"dateDigested":1531973877,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"Wuthering Heights Themes ","description":"Some of the many themes present in \u201cWuthering Heights\u201d so far are jealousy, love, prejudice, and revenge. Revenge is an eminent theme in the novel, and we see it mostly through the relationship between Heathcliff and Hindley. When Heathcliff first arrived at Wuthering Heights Hindley grew quite jealous of his father\u2019s affection for Heathcliff, his foster-brother. At a young age, Hindley sought revenge on Heathcliff for taking his father\u2019s attention and for this reason he beat Heathcliff whenever he got the chance. For the same reason, he mistreated Heathcliff after his father\u2019s death and made Heathcliff work like any other servant. Nelly used to think Heathcliff wasn\u2019t vindictive, but that notion changed, \u201cI really thought him not vindictive. I was deceived, completely, as you will hear,\u201d(pg. 39). Although Heathcliff did not seem very vindictive as a young child, the quote foreshadows this will change as the story progresses. In fact, he began to change as more offenses accumulated, and one day he reached his limit and began to think of a perfect revenge. "I'm trying to settle how I shall pay Hindley back. I don't care how long I wait, if I can only do it, at last. I hope he will not die before I do!...I only wish I knew the best way! Let me alone, and I'll plan it out: while I'm thinking of that, I don't feel pain,\u201d (pg.59). Heathcliff reached his patience limit and all he desired after that was to avenge all the harm Hindley had inflicted upon him. At that point in the book revenge becomes a very important theme, since it is what Heathcliff seeks. For Heathcliff to say that he feels no pain while planning revenge shows us how vindictive he has become, and how important this is for him. Another very important theme is prejudice. When Mr. Earnshaw brings Heathcliff to Wuthering Heights his wife, Mrs. Earnshaw, disapproves of such an action and calls Heathcliff a \u201cgypsy brat\u201d(pg. 36), the use of such language shows us Mrs. Earnshaw prejudged Heathcliff because of his race. The same happens with the Lintons. They are very judgmental towards Heathcliff, and without really knowing him, they jumped to conclusions about him, only because he doesn\u2019t behave like they do, and he doesn\u2019t look the same way either. When the Linton\u2019s first meet Heathcliff and Catherine this was Mrs. Linton\u2019s exclamation: \u201cMiss Earnshaw scouring the country with a gipsy!\u201d (pg. 49). And, after two seconds of having met Heathcliff she proceeded to make hasty conclusions, \u201cA wicked boy, at all events,\u2019 remarked the old lady, \u2018and quite unfit for a decent house!\u201d(pg. 49). In such cases we can see how prejudice is a prominent theme in the novel as well.","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[{"id":"29245991","body":"Mariangel,
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\nThis is well written, concise, and comprehensive, yet there is one huge, glaring issue. Remember: we always write in the present-tense when discussing literature and unfortunately this is written using the past-tense. Could you go back and change it, please? I know it seems a lot of work but after this you should not forget.
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\nThanks,
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\nWebster","dateCreated":"1288283949","smartDate":"Oct 28, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"davidgarethw","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/davidgarethw","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"29248423","body":"Thank you Mr. Webster, I hope its better know.
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\nSome of the many themes present in \u201cWuthering Heights\u201d so far are jealousy, love, prejudice, and revenge. Revenge is an eminent theme in the novel, and we see it mostly through the relationship between Heathcliff and Hindley. When Heathcliff first arrives at Wuthering Heights Hindley grows quite jealous of his father\u2019s affection for Heathcliff, his foster-brother. At a young age, Hindley seeks revenge on Heathcliff for taking his father\u2019s attention and for this reason he beats Heathcliff whenever he gets the chance. For the same reason, he mistreats Heathcliff after his father\u2019s death and makes Heathcliff work like any other servant. Nelly thought Heathcliff wasn\u2019t vindictive, but that notion changes, \u201cI really thought him not vindictive. I was deceived, completely, as you will hear,\u201d(pg. 39). Although Heathcliff does not seem very vindictive as a young child, the quote foreshadows this will change as the story progresses. In fact, he begins to change as more offenses accumulate, until one day he reaches his limit and begins to think of a perfect revenge. "I'm trying to settle how I shall pay Hindley back. I don't care how long I wait, if I can only do it, at last. I hope he will not die before I do!...I only wish I knew the best way! Let me alone, and I'll plan it out: while I'm thinking of that, I don't feel pain,\u201d (pg.59). Heathcliff reaches his patience limit and all he desires after that is to avenge all the harm Hindley has inflicted upon him. At that point in the book revenge becomes a very important theme, since it is what Heathcliff seeks. For Heathcliff to say that he feels no pain while planning revenge shows us how vindictive he becomes, and how important this is for him. Another very important theme is prejudice. When Mr. Earnshaw brings Heathcliff to Wuthering Heights his wife, Mrs. Earnshaw, disapproves of such an action and calls Heathcliff a \u201cgypsy brat\u201d(pg. 36), the use of such language shows us Mrs. Earnshaw prejudged Heathcliff because of his race. The same happens with the Lintons. They are very judgmental towards Heathcliff, and without really knowing him, they jump to conclusions about him, only because he doesn\u2019t behave like they do, and he doesn\u2019t look the same way either. When the Lintons first meet Heathcliff and Catherine this is Mrs. Linton\u2019s exclamation: \u201cMiss Earnshaw scouring the country with a gipsy!\u201d (pg. 49). And, after two seconds of having met Heathcliff she proceeds to make hasty conclusions, \u201cA wicked boy, at all events,\u2019 remarked the old lady, \u2018and quite unfit for a decent house!\u201d(pg. 49). In such cases we can see how prejudice is a prominent theme in the novel as well.","dateCreated":"1288286232","smartDate":"Oct 28, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"mariangel94","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/mariangel94","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"29257595","body":"Great Mariangel,
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\nMuch better,
\n
\nThanks,
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\nWebster","dateCreated":"1288293658","smartDate":"Oct 28, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"davidgarethw","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/davidgarethw","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}}],"more":0}]}],"more":true},"comments":[]},"http":{"code":200,"status":"OK"},"redirectUrl":null,"javascript":null,"notices":{"warning":[],"error":[],"info":[],"success":[]}}