{"content":{"sharePage":{"page":0,"digests":[{"id":"28078637","dateCreated":"1286394941","smartDate":"Oct 6, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"luisuarez","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/luisuarez","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/pic\/1302804674\/luisuarez-lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/davidgarethw-books-b.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/28078637"},"dateDigested":1531973883,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"of MIce and Men","description":"In \u201cOf Mice and Men\u201d by John Steinbeck, we can see a lot of properties of narrative. I personally enjoyed this story due to teachings and the meaning of the story. This novel, written by John Steinbeck is a very successful story because of the type of words used and the message conveyed. I consider this text to be successful, because the reader can fluently read this story, without getting mixed up or getting bored. Also, since it is very concise, the story can be read in a short time; but it still has a lot of meaning and good teachings. Of Mice and Men, is a very good book in terms of teachings, for it teaches people to consider the innocence of some people. For instance, Lenny accidentally kills Curley\u2019s wife, but it wasn\u2019t his fault because he couldn\u2019t control his strength and nor did he control his actions. From the point of view of the narrative, we can see that \u201cOf Mice and Men\u201d is written in third person, we can see this in this quote. \u201cA few miles south of Soledad, the Salinas River drops in close to the hillside bank and runs deep and green. The water is warm too, for it has slipped twinkling over the yellow sands in the sunlight before reaching the narrow pool." We can see that this story is written in third person, and it is a good way to tell this story, for it has a lot of characters and many actions. In this story we can\u2019t presence any type of \u201cstream-of-conscience\u201d because the story is told directly and the narrator doesn\u2019t normally keep explaining nor uses any over fluently type of speaking. But in this story, we can see there is an essence of minimalism. When George backstabs Lenny, and kills him; there isn\u2019t enough information given to us of why did he kill him. We are informed that it was because of sympathy for him, and the fact that he didn\u2019t want any other person to kill him. As they say in the end of the book, \u201cNever you mind. A guy got to sometimes.\u201d This shows minimalistic ideas because it doesn\u2019t tell you why \u201ca guy got to sometimes\u201d, it gives you the idea; but doesn\u2019t give you the answer. Therefore, Of Mice and Men clearly show us that it is a Minimalistic \u201ctype\u201d of story. In the other hand, in this story we presence a lot of Foreshadowing, for instance when they say \u201cHe jus' wanted to touch that red dress, like he wants to pet them pups all the time\u201d (Chapter 3).This is a clear example of foreshadowing because it is telling us a hint of what is about to happen. In the next moments of the book, Lenny holds the puppy so strongly, that he kills him. Foreshadowing in this book is very present. Therefore I think that \u201cOf Mice and Men\u201d is a story that has many of the narrative styles and properties that we have talked about.","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[{"id":"28150169","body":"Luis,
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\nThanks for answering but I am a little unsure about a few things...
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\n1) What does this mean... 'We can see that this story is written in third person, and it is a good way to tell this story, for it has a lot of characters and many actions'? Why, I have to ask, does a story being written in the 3rd person necessarily have to do with it having lots of characters and action?
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\n2)'In this story we can\u2019t presence any type of \u201cstream-of-conscience\u201d because the story is told directly and the narrator doesn\u2019t normally keep explaining nor uses any over fluently type of speaking.' Basically, this sentence really needs cleaning up, there are many, many mistakes here; and I am not sure, at all, of what you are saying.
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\n3) If you claim that it is a 'minimalist' piece of work, could you give us some examples for the text?
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\nThanks,
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\nWebster","dateCreated":"1286492554","smartDate":"Oct 7, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"davidgarethw","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/davidgarethw","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}}],"more":0}]},{"id":"28043241","dateCreated":"1286339928","smartDate":"Oct 5, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"Jenny-37715","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/Jenny-37715","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/pic\/1282875040\/Jenny-37715-lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/davidgarethw-books-b.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/28043241"},"dateDigested":1531973883,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"The luxe","description":"The Luxe by Anne Godbersen is a story which tells the life of New York\u2019s elite society in the 1800\u2019s. It mainly follows the life of Diana and Elizabeth Holland who are part of one of Society\u2019s most cherished. With many love triangles and ambitious socialites, the story becomes a battle field for love and power.
\n The Luxe is mostly similar to \u201cThe New Dress\u201d in terms of story line and narrative. In the \u201cThe New Dress\u201d the narrator gives us most of details and there is very little one can or has to infer. We get the feelings, the thoughts, and the personalities through the information given by the author. This is very similar to The Luxe because the narrator, who is actually an outsider, gives us the feelings when they talk, the description of the scenes, basically everything. For example, \u201cHe felt a rush of relief that no one seemed to have found his absence remarkable, but it quickly turned to disappointment. The scene before him- all those heavily made-up faces gorging themselves food, all that shrill laughter coming in the ease of the same tired old jokes- was so pitifully boring.\u201d (pg. 168) In the story the narrator, is constantly giving us description of feeling, of the scene, of ways things are said which is very different from that of minimalist writing. The narrator is not disconnected from the story but actually is very connected to the character.
\n The narrator also uses a lot of description which make the audience feel the 1800\u2019s with the big dresses and the ballrooms and dances. For example when the narrator is talking of society the narrator says, \u201cAnd indeed, tomorrow would probably pass them by while they slept under silken canopies, waking only to accept pitchers of ice water and shoo way the maid. They were a society whose chief vocations were to entertain and be entertained.\u201d ( pg. 13) The dresses are also described such as, \u201c It was a modest dress in theory, covering clavicle and wrists in Belgian lace, but every alteration seamed to bring the cloth closer to her skin. IT was constructed of the palest pink silk, and it skirt gathered ripples and waves that cascaded downward toward the floor.\u201d (pg. 288) The intense use of imagery throughout the book make one feel the 1800\u2019s and makes the audience part of the story.
\n The narrative also has many social conflicts such as a love triangle between Elizabeth, her best friend Penelope, and the man they want Henry Shoonmaker. The interesting love triangle makes the story unstoppable to read. One must keep reading to se how the conflict grows and develops. The themes that are present are also intriguing because the story is a mixture of jealousy, love, envy, greed, power, and ambition. The narrative balances all these feelings very well to create a captivating story. It also presents small cutouts of newspaper which enhance the gossip and the secrets of the story. Those small newspaper cutouts make the story that more realistic and give the feeling of a critical society.","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[{"id":"28070679","body":"Thanks Jennifer,
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\nWebster","dateCreated":"1286387795","smartDate":"Oct 6, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"davidgarethw","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/davidgarethw","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}}],"more":0}]},{"id":"28042351","dateCreated":"1286337634","smartDate":"Oct 5, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"ellagicacid","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/ellagicacid","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/pic\/1343664898\/ellagicacid-lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/davidgarethw-books-b.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/28042351"},"dateDigested":1531973884,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"The Book Thief","description":""The Book Thief" by Markus Zusak.
\nElla Nugent wiki response
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\n"The Book Thief" is a brilliantly written book by Markus Zusak, who transports us into the time period of World War II and what it was like for a young girl named Leisel Meminger living in Germany at the time. Leisel's father has mysteriously disappeared and her younger brother, Werner, has recently died. Leisel attend her brother's funeral, where she steals her first book: The Grave Digger's handbook. Leisel is then sent to live with Hans and Rosa Hubermann. She takes an immediate liking to her foster father, Hans, who teaches her to read. Then, unexpectedly, Hans and Rosa take in Max, a Jewish black man who has escaped from jail. Leisel and Max make fast friends and after witnessing a book burning and discovering that the Nazis were behind her father's death, Leisel decides that she loathes Hitler and makes him her enemy. At the book burning, Leisel steals her second book, written by a Jewish man. Max has to leave the house when Liesel\u2019s family is suspected of being anti-hitler, but much later on in the book, Liesel and Max are re-united again after many many years and the book ends when Liesel dies a very old woman and Death lovingly carries her soul away.
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\nThe story is successful because it is told through an extremely unlikely and unusual narrator: Death. Death is shown to us in a different light because while most books portray Death as scary and cruel, in "The Book Thief", Death is shown as a gentle, but overworked\/stressed character. As well as the originality of the narrator, this story is a huge success because of the beautiful language used; brilliant imagery, unusual descriptions and the many metaphors which give flavour and life to the book. Zusak uses such unusual descriptions because rather than describing images and scenes, he focuses a lot on sound and voices; "A scream will dribble down the air"; \u201cand the words fell like injuries from his mouth\u201d; \u201cShe sprayed her words directly into the woman\u2019s eyes\u201d. I adore all his descriptions because the words are always sprayed, thrown, hurled or they always dribble, drop, plop and fall. He also always describes colours, particularily the colours of the sky as \u201cflavours\u201d which Death \u201csucks on\u201d to ease his stress. As well as descriptions, he gives wonderful metaphors: \u201cBlood leaked from her nose and licked at her lips. Her eyes had blackened. Cut had opened up and a series of wounds were rising to the surface of her skin. All from the words. From Liesel\u2019s words\u201d. This is one, out of many of his metaphors, that stuck in my mind long after I finished reading his book. This book relates to what we have discussed in class because of the many examples of imagery and metaphors. Something a little different than anything we discussed is the narrator, who is different than anything I have ever read before, which makes this book all the more impactful.","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[{"id":"28070583","body":"Great Ella,
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\nThis shows a rather close reading of the novel and the words it uses.
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\nThanks,
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\nWebster","dateCreated":"1286387704","smartDate":"Oct 6, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"davidgarethw","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/davidgarethw","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}}],"more":0}]},{"id":"28042107","dateCreated":"1286337233","smartDate":"Oct 5, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"cristinarojas1","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/cristinarojas1","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/davidgarethw-books-b.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/28042107"},"dateDigested":1531973884,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"the catcher in the rye","description":"Holden is a typical sixteen-year-old teenager who thinks that whatever he does with his life at this point is not important and that it won\u2019t affect his future, which for him is very far away but it is actually closer than what it seems. He is conflicted with society and its priorities. \u201c People always clap to the wrong things\u201d (page 84). Holden believed that society was very \u201cphony\u201d and rebelled against everything it stood for. The novel \u201c The Catcher in the Rye\u201d is an iconic piece that speaks to every generation during their teenage hood in a very personal manner. Its honesty and bluntness appeals to most teenagers who are experiencing similar conflicts as Holden. Holden is cynical, doubting the sincerity and goodness in people, suspecting that everyone is selfish and out for personal gain; even though he is very extremist in his opinions he still walks through the same path of social awkwardness, being accepted, and being loved as most people go through their teenage years. The first person narrative contributes to the connection between the novel and the reader, the fact that Holden is telling the story to a psychoanalyst makes it almost impossible for the reader not to assume this role and therefore study Holden\u2019s issues. The reader becomes personally connected to these thoughts and predicaments. No where in the book does Holden clearly states how deeply troubled he is yet Salinger\u2019s narrative opens up a scope of great desperation that portrays how unstable Holden is actually becoming. The novel has been considered by some to be written in stream of consciousness narrative because of the fact that the entire novel actually occurs in three days and that most of it is expressed through Holden\u2019s thoughts, opinions, and self-interventions. Yet the fact that the novel concedes with this literary narrative in these aspects, doesn\u2019t override the fact that there is also digression, which doesn\u2019t fit the term. Holden goes back and remembers previous incidents, which hint us to why Holden acts and feels so ail. "You take somebody that cries their goddam eyes out over phoney stuff in the movies, and nine times out of ten they're mean bastards at heart." (There are 224 curse words in this book.) The language used in the novel has said to be \u201cbad\u201d; when the book first came out, language caused controversy, words like crap, bastard, and son of a bitch were used to present the \u201cbad example\u201d the novel set on children. But the language actually works the other way around in this novel; the swearing is used to convey a subconsciously, deep-seated insecurity in Holden. The language actually enhances the reader\u2019s concerns for the character and ends up guiding the reader into understanding Holden\u2019s idiosyncrasies. The inappropriate language contributes to the established relationship between a teenager and the book; most teenagers see this language as everyday common, and even though it is not the best way to express one\u2019s self, it is the way most adolescents speak today. Having the book use this type of language facilitates a teenager to identify with Holden.","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[{"id":"28070443","body":"Christina,
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\n1) 'the fact that Holden is telling the story to a psychoanalyst' Fact? How do you know this? I've never thought it was a fact.
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\n2) Two problems here: 'he is very extremist in his opinions'
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\n3) 'he reader becomes personally connected to these thoughts and predicaments.' You need to tell us why...
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\n4) How do we spell 'no where'?
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\n5) 'does Holden clearly states '
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\n6) This is clever and clear: 'The novel has been considered by some to be written in stream of consciousness narrative because of the fact that the entire novel actually occurs in three days and that most of it is expressed through Holden\u2019s thoughts, opinions, and self-interventions. Yet the fact that the novel concedes with this literary narrative in these aspects, doesn\u2019t override the fact that there is also digression, which doesn\u2019t fit the term.'
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\nThanks,
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\nWebster","dateCreated":"1286387594","smartDate":"Oct 6, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"davidgarethw","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/davidgarethw","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"28076533","body":"1) At the end of the novel Holden decides to go back to his parents, we are able to conclude that he is then sent to a mental institution for help.
\n"Assuming that Holden is telling the story to a psychoanalyst makes it almost impossible for the reader not to unconsciously assume this role."
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\n2)even though his opinions are sometimes very preposterous...I'm not sure what the changes were, but this sounds better
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\n3) The reader becomes personally connected to these thoughts and predicaments because of the way Holden expresses himself and opens up his mind and his feelings.
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\n4&5) Nowhere in the book does Holden clearly state how deeply troubled he is...","dateCreated":"1286393011","smartDate":"Oct 6, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"cristinarojas1","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/cristinarojas1","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"28124875","body":"Christina,
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\n#2 and #4\/5 are good. Thanks for correcting them.
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\n#3 needs an example or textual reference.
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\n#1... I really don't see your point here. I think you really need to defend this better... it doesn't seem to have any support other than you feel that it is true. Can you please continue to argue this? (Even if, as you say, he was sent to an institution, what indication is there that what we are reading is actually him speaking to a psychologist?)
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\nThanks,
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\nWebster","dateCreated":"1286467842","smartDate":"Oct 7, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"davidgarethw","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/davidgarethw","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"28207587","body":"#1Yes Mr. Webster, you are right, there is no textual reference and there is not enough information to support my assumption. But I do believe that as readers we do assume a role in which we analyze Holden's issues. It may not be because he is in a psychiatric institution; but because he goes through so much in a really short elapse of time and has so many strong and extreme opinions about people and society, that it makes it almost impossible for the reader not to examine them.
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\n#3 Quote from chapter 22: "What I have to do, I have to catch everybody if they start to go over the cliff \u2014 I mean if they're running and they don't look where they're going I have to come out from somewhere and catch them. That's all I'd do all day. I'd just be the catcher in the rye and all. I know it's crazy, but that's the only thing I'd really like to be. I know it's crazy."","dateCreated":"1286577019","smartDate":"Oct 8, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"cristinarojas1","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/cristinarojas1","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}}],"more":0}]},{"id":"28041741","dateCreated":"1286336642","smartDate":"Oct 5, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"cecyrodriguez","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/cecyrodriguez","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/davidgarethw-books-b.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/28041741"},"dateDigested":1531973884,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"\"For One More Day\"","description":"\u201cFor One More Day\u201d by Mitch Albom is an interesting ghost novel about the relationship a mother has with his son. Charley, the son, finds the ghost of his mother one day after trying to commit suicide and failing. His mother spends the day with him, while they visit people they used to know who are also dead. During the day, Charley reveals his life since he was a little boy and how his relationship with his mother changed. As the story comes to an end, both the reader and Charley find out that he is actually dead and is now a ghost, like his mother. In the end, Charley is saddened because the last thing he did to his mother was awful, but his mother tells him \u201cYou can\u2019t loose your mother, Charley. I\u2019m right here.\u201d (Page 191) Charley\u2019s mother forgives him and lets him move on to the next life peacefully, with no secrets left behind.
\nThis text is very successful when it comes to its writing and the narrative voice. The story is in first person told by the main character, Charley. One of the strengths is how Charley narrates a part of his life showing how he felt at the time, but also hinting the feeling of regret he feels in the present. How it changed over time.
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\n\u201c My father sneers and shakes his head \u2018Same old story\u2019 He grouses. I am watching him. He sees me. I quickly put a forkful in my mouth. He motions with his chin. \u2018What do you think of the ziti your mother made?\u2019 I chew, I swallow, I look at him. I look at my mother. She drops her shoulders in exasperation. Now they are both waiting. \u2018It\u2019s not right.\u2019 I mumble, looking at my father. He snorts and says \u2018Even the kid knows.\u2019\u201d (Page 54)
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\nIn this example Charley is torn between defending his mother or supporting his father\u2019s compliant about her mother\u2019s dish. The reader and Charley know that it\u2019s not what he wanted to say. This description and suspense in between the dialogue gives away what Charley is feeling inside and what is going on in his head. You can then truly see Charley\u2019s point of view of the scene.
\nThe narrative is also very realistic, because it contains a lot of imagery.
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\n\u201cI was a daddy\u2019s boy, and I remained a daddy\u2019s boy right up to hot, cloudless Saturday morning in the spring of fifth grade year\u2026 The sun was already warming the kitchen when I entered in my long socks\u2026My mother bit her lip and looked away from me. I remember the smell of burnt roast and thought she was upset because she messed up breakfast.\u201d (Page 22)
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\nIn this passage Charley\u2019s mother tells him that his father abandoned them. The narrative is strong when it uses imagery, because the scene is felt and played like a movie in ones head. The smell of burnt roast gives the mood of something is out of place and wrong. Throughout the whole story the narrative shows a lot of imagery and different points of view of the same character, Charley.","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[{"id":"28069991","body":"Cecilia,
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\nI think that you structured this very well.The organization really helps the reader clearly understand your points.
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\nThanks,
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\nWebster","dateCreated":"1286387227","smartDate":"Oct 6, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"davidgarethw","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/davidgarethw","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}}],"more":0}]},{"id":"28039037","dateCreated":"1286331934","smartDate":"Oct 5, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"marinacoccaro","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/marinacoccaro","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/davidgarethw-books-b.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/28039037"},"dateDigested":1531973885,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"\"The Glass Castle\"","description":"\u201cThe Glass Castle\u201d by Jeannette Walls is written in first person. Jeannette is the narrator and describes her insane childhood throughout the whole book. It is really impressive how she managed to write every little detail and record each single thought that ran through her mind during her young days. This book is filled with great imagery, which actually makes us readers feel as if we were living on her family\u2019s trailer in the middle of a desert or even admiring a beautiful night sky filled with stars next to her father. She also does an amazing job at introducing her relatives, it seems their thoughts and ideas are being expressed as well, but in reality, their actions are all that is provided to us. Jeannette leads us through the several journeys she and her family are forced to make, due to loss of her father\u2019s jobs or just for the sake of the kids. She writes in such a friendly way, that we readers feel a strong charismatic feeling towards her. Her honesty stands out throughout the whole book; she is never embarrassed to provide us with all kinds of things that happened during her young years, even if they were not pleasant. \u201cIn my mind, Dad was perfect, although he did have what Mom called a bit of a drinking situation.\u201d (pg 23). In this quote she is pointing out one of the few defects her father possesses. It\u2019s probably something she is not proud of, but she feels like sharing all she\u2019s been through with the readers is essential in order to create a bond of understanding and trust with them. \u201c\u2026I was three years old, and we were living in a trailer park in a southern Arizona town whose name I never knew. I was standing on a chair in front of the stove, wearing a pink dress my grandmother bought to me\u2026the dress\u2019s skirt stuck out like a tutu\u201d. (pg 9). It\u2019s astonishing how the author was able to recall such insignificant details and at the same time give us a clear image of what was going on. \u201cMom believed that children shouldn\u2019t be burdened with a lot of rules and restrictions. Dad whipped us with his belt, but never out of anger, and only if we back-talked or disobeyed a direct order, which was rare.\u201d (pg 59). Jeannette is once again giving us an insight about her family and allowing us to know a little more about her parents. \u201cMom and Dad had never been able to buy class pictures for us, though a couple of times, Mom secretly snipped a snapshot put of the packet before returning it.\u201d (pg. 76). Things like this make the reading interesting, since we never know what to expect from her or her family. The unbelievable circumstances her and her brother and sister were raised in are truly shocking, it\u2019s never tiring to read some of the crazy adventures they\u2019ve been through. Foreshadowing is also one of the reasons of why this book is so enjoyable to read. When her dad leaves a room in a bar tired, and is later on followed by a woman, we can quickly assume that the lady was a prostitute. Even though Jeannette was too small to know that, she could still infer her dad was doing something wrong. This book is truly a success, and it couldn\u2019t be better written.","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[{"id":"28069173","body":"This is good, Marina,
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\nJust what I was hoping for.
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\nThanks,
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\nWebster","dateCreated":"1286386348","smartDate":"Oct 6, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"davidgarethw","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/davidgarethw","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}}],"more":0}]},{"id":"28038583","dateCreated":"1286331389","smartDate":"Oct 5, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"eli-picado","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/eli-picado","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/pic\/1283475869\/eli-picado-lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/davidgarethw-books-b.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/28038583"},"dateDigested":1531973885,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"\"Love Walked In\"","description":"The novel \u201cLove Walked In\u201d by Marisa De Los Santos is a wonderfully written story about love, fear and friendship. The main character Cornelia is an average woman that works in a cafeteria. Follower of the classic cinema love stories, she lives dreaming about the day her Cary Grant will find her. One day, a man who matches her ideal of perfection, visits her caf\u00e9. They start a relationship, and gradually she starts seeing his defects. Cornelia hits bottom line when she discovers Martin\u00b4s hidden daughter, Clare. With Martin playing the part of absent parent and Clare\u00b4s mother gone, Cornelia and Clare\u00b4s lives are interlaced, creating a strong connection between them. The story\u00b4s structure is also interlaced. The first chapter is an introduction to Cornelia\u00b4s live, and the second one is fully dedicated to Clare\u00b4s story. This format is followed until the very last chapter of the novel, presenting two different stories and two points of view simultaneously. The novel uses a considerable amount of imagery, using a really refined and polished language. For example, when Cornelia and Clare\u00b4s bond is starting to gain strength, Clare says: \u201cCornelia lives in her body just like I live in mine, Clare understood suddenly. She\u00b4s the main character in her story, just like I\u00b4m the main character in mine,\u201d (page 178). The imagery and the language used creates a stronger image in the reader. The text also presents characteristics of a stream of consciousness narrated in third person. This allows the author to describe the setting, expose the character\u00b4s thoughts and feelings, and give an account of events that the characters ignore through the narrator. For example, when Clare is first dealing with her recent loneliness, the narrator describes: \u201cClare lay on her side on the guestroom bed in her father\u2019s apartment, not sleeping, trying to imagine herself as a piece of driftwood. She tucked in her knees and circled them with her arms, pulling in tight, making herself small. She wanted every part of her body to be touching another part of her body so that she was aware of all her edges, all the places Clare ended and the rest of the world began,\u201d (page 99). As part of the audience, one gets description of Clare\u00b4s feelings and the setting trough the narrator. This characteristic allows the reader to relate in a more active way with the story. The novel also shows minimalism. As the story is developed, there are references to past or minor events that are not described, but that help build the plot. For example, when Cornelia describes her first date with Martin, she says: \u201cAs we talked, lights flicked on inside my head; by the end of the night, I was a planetarium,\u201d (page 40). The conversation and the date itself are not described, what is described are Cornelia\u00b4s feelings; this gives the reader an idea of what happened, what helps to build the plot. In this novel, every line and phrase works perfectly with the rest of the story. All this characteristics make of \u201cLove Walked In\u201d a powerful choice of reading that will suck the reader in to the story.","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[{"id":"28068983","body":"Elizabeth,
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\nIssues:
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\n1) What is wrong here-- 'The main character Cornelia is an average woman that works in a cafeteria.'
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\n2) and here: 'The imagery and the language used creates a stronger image in the reader.'
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\n3) and this: 'All this characteristics make of \u201cLove Walked In\u201d a powerful choice of reading that will suck the reader in to the story.'
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\n4) I would also like an example of the stream-of-conscious writing that you claim is in the novel...
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\nThanks,
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\nWebster","dateCreated":"1286386217","smartDate":"Oct 6, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"davidgarethw","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/davidgarethw","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"28077301","body":"1. The main character Cornelia is an average woman who works in a cafeteria.
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\n2. The imagery and the language used create a stronger image in the reader.
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\n3. All thiese characteristics make of \u201cLove Walked In\u201d a powerful choice of reading that will suck the reader in to the story.
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\n4. One example of stream of consciousness narrated in third person presented in the novel is when Clare realizes the amazing relationship that Clare and Teo have. These are Clare\u00b4s thoughts: \u201cClare wasn't worried anymore about their being mean to each other. She imagined that someday she's be part of a friendship in which she and the friend thought so highly of each other and were so sure or this that they could say anything." Clare is not the one who exposes her thoughts, it is the narrator who does it; and he uses the characteristic structure of a stream of consciousness.
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\nNotes:
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\nTeo is a character that appears later on the novel and that I didn\u00b4t mentioned before in the wiki. He is Cornelia\u00b4s best friend.
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\nSorry I didn\u00b4t write the page of the quote, but I had already returned the book and I had to use a digital version.","dateCreated":"1286393660","smartDate":"Oct 6, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"eli-picado","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/eli-picado","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/pic\/1283475869\/eli-picado-lg.jpg"}},{"id":"28149529","body":"Great Elizabeth,
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\nThanks,
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\nWebster","dateCreated":"1286491800","smartDate":"Oct 7, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"davidgarethw","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/davidgarethw","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}}],"more":0}]},{"id":"28036399","dateCreated":"1286328896","smartDate":"Oct 5, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"mariangel94","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/mariangel94","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/davidgarethw-books-b.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/28036399"},"dateDigested":1531973886,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"Of Mice and Men","description":"\u201cOf Mice and Men\u201d is a short novel or novella written by John Steinbeck. It tells the story of George, a stout and smart man, and Lennie, his large but mentally handicapped friend. Ever since Lennie\u2019s Aunt Clara died, George took responsibility for Lennie. They travel together to a new work sight, another ranch they will be working in. When they get to the ranch their boss is bothered by their tardiness but they are soon accommodated and put to work. They share the dream of working for some time and making enough money to get their own place, and Lennie enjoys the thought of owning rabbits, but he has a reputation for unintentionally killing small things. Curley, their boss, isn\u2019t fond of big strong guys since he is short and for this reason picks up a fight with Lennie when he gets the chance. Things are working out pretty well in the new Ranch with the help of Candy, an old man that worked there, it seemed like their dream could come true. It all falls apart when Lennie accidentally kills Curley\u2019s wife. When she let Lennie feel her hair he couldn\u2019t let go and the lack of control over his strength ended up killing her. Lennie flees to the woods where George had told him to go if anything happens, but the ranch hands and Curley went after him. To avoid Curley lynching Lennie George makes an agonizing decision. When he finds Lennie they talk about their dream and George puts the gun to Lennie\u2019s head from behind and shoots. A third person omniscient narrator that can access the point of view of many characters in the story tells this text. One of the narrative components that work very well in \u201cOf Mice and Men\u201d is the use of imagery at certain points in the story. At the beginning of the story Steinbeck uses quite a lot of imagery to describe the setting. "Evening of a hot day started the little wind to moving among the leaves. The shade climbed up the hills toward the top. On the sand banks the rabbits sat as quietly as little gray, sculptured stones," (Chapter 1). The use of figurative language, like this one, helps the reader create more precise mental images of what the setting is like and what is happening throughout the book. The use of foreshadowing and suspense also make this a successful piece. Several events and actions in the book foreshadow what is coming next and this expectation builds up suspense in the reader. Lennie being run out of his other job for grabbing a girl\u2019s dress, petting the mouse he killed, as well as killing the puppy he was given are all events that foreshadow the Murder of Curley\u2019s wife, for example. When George disappears and goes to the bunkroom to get the gun also foreshadows the upcoming event when he kills Lennie. The uses of foreshadowing like these create expectation of what will happen next in the reader which gives a sense of suspense while one reads. The wise combination of imagery, foreshadowing and suspense in the narrative of \u201cOf Mice and Men\u201d makes this a very successful novella.","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[{"id":"28068659","body":"Mariangle,
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\nI would like you to extend this... It seems a little heavy (to much writing) on the intricacies of the plot and not really much though put into the narrative function, the way the story is told. Foreshadowing is obviously something to consider here, but I find that most of your 'talking points' regarding focus on how it drives the plot along. Could you try to consider the narrative function a little more thoroughly please?
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\nThanks,
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\nWebster","dateCreated":"1286385976","smartDate":"Oct 6, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"davidgarethw","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/davidgarethw","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"28161537","body":"-Thanks Mr. Webster, I added to the analytical part of my answer and reposted this section only.
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\nA third person omniscient narrator that can access the point of view of many characters in the story tells this text. As the reader this gives us much insight into the characters and allows us to feel sympathy or relate to them. Another narrative component that works very well in \u201cOf Mice and Men\u201d is the use of imagery at certain points in the story. At the beginning of the story Steinbeck uses quite a lot of imagery to describe the setting. "Evening of a hot day started the little wind to moving among the leaves. The shade climbed up the hills toward the top. On the sand banks the rabbits sat as quietly as little gray, sculptured stones," (Chapter 1). The use of figurative language, like this one, helps the reader create more precise mental images of what the setting is like and what is happening throughout the book. The use of figurative language allows the reader to fully understand the ambience of the book along with its characters. The narrative also resorts to the use of foreshadowing not only to drive the plot but to deliver an important message to the reader. Several events and actions in the book foreshadow what is coming next and this expectation builds up suspense in the reader. Lennie being run out of his other job for grabbing a girl\u2019s dress, petting the mouse he killed, as well as killing the puppy he was given are all events that foreshadow the Murder of Curley\u2019s wife, for example. When George disappears and goes to the bunkroom to get the gun also foreshadows the upcoming event when he kills Lennie. Yet what isn\u2019t always noticed about these foreshadowed events is that they carry a message the author wants to express through the text. He wants to convey Lennie\u2019s innocence through the previous accidental murders, and expose the delicate topic of euthanasia, and mercy killing. The use of foreshadowing also creates expectation of what will happen next in the reader which gives a sense of suspense while one reads, and the important events carry deeper messages Steinbeck wants the reader to consider. The wise combination of imagery, figurative language, foreshadowing and suspense in the narrative of \u201cOf Mice and Men\u201d makes this a very successful novella.","dateCreated":"1286504454","smartDate":"Oct 7, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"mariangel94","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/mariangel94","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"28195063","body":"Thanks Mariangel,
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\nWebster","dateCreated":"1286560430","smartDate":"Oct 8, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"davidgarethw","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/davidgarethw","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}}],"more":0}]},{"id":"28035847","dateCreated":"1286328262","smartDate":"Oct 5, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"gmurphy3","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/gmurphy3","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/davidgarethw-books-b.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/28035847"},"dateDigested":1531973886,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"The Secret Life of Bees ","description":" \u201cThe Secret Life of Bees\u201d by Sue Monk Kidd is narrated in first person by a fourteen-year-old girl named Lily Owens. The story takes place during the summer that Lily runs away from her abusive father in Sylvan, South Carolina and ends up in Tiburon, South Carolina. There, she meets the Boatwright sisters and stays on their beekeeping farm for the summer. The story focuses on how Lily grows and changes that summer and she finds out a lot about her life that she would never have known if she had not run away.
\n Since Lily narrates the story in first person, we know everything about her. We know her innermost thoughts and what she thinks about everything that is happening to her. It is as if Lily is directly telling the story to us. We only know what she knows. We see everything through Lily\u2019s eyes; she is our window into the story. \u201cThe only parts of her not submerged were her hands. They floated, her palms little ragged cups bobbing on the surface, the water weaving in and out of her fingers.\u201d [pg 192] Lily says this when she (spoiler alert!) sees May Boatwright floating in the water after she had drowned. Since we are finding out about this at the same time as Lily, we feel more deeply connected to the characters in the story. This style of narration makes readers feel closer to the narrator, which is a strong point of first person narration.
\n The narration in \u201cThe Secret Life of Bees\u201d is far from that of a minimalist story such as \u201cTuesday Night.\u201d In minimalistic stories, readers are not fully aware of the situation, lots of components are left out. In this story we know everything that Lily knows. The only time that readers are unaware of what is going on is when Lily is unaware of what is going on. The narration style in this novel is similar to the narration in the short story \u201cHow It Feels To Be Colored Me.\u201d They are both narrated in first person and readers can get a sense of the narrator\u2019s personality. Lots of excellent imagery is used in \u201cThe Secret Life of Bees.\u201d Scenes are vividly described in how they look and feel. Lily gives the readers strong mental pictures of her world. \u201cWhen we walked back to the house, darkness had settled in and fireflies sparked around our shoulders.\u201d [p 94] This imagery gives us an excellent mental picture of what that night looked like. \u201cWhen I looked up through the web of trees, the night fell over me, and for a moment I lost my boundaries, feeling like the sky was my own skin and the moon was my heart beating up there in the dark.\u201d [pg 23] When Lily says this, she lets us know exactly what she sees. We feel like we are a part of the story because of the strong imagery she uses.
\n In conclusion, the narration in this story is successful because of the way it makes readers feel like they are a part of the story. The main character is very relatable and very likable, making this story extremely touching and enjoyable.","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[{"id":"28068297","body":"Grace,
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\nThis is well-written and thought out, but I have a couple of issues...
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\nYou write 'Since Lily narrates the story in first person, we know everything about her'. So is this always true, that if the narration is in the first-person, then we know, without doubt, everything about her or him. Don't people in real like forget, lie, omit,avoid, seem unreliable? If so, why not in books as well?
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\nYou also write: 'Since we are finding out about this [May's drowning] at the same time as Lily, we feel more deeply connected to the characters in the story.' Why? Why should Lily's voice then connect us more deeply than if another was telling us the tale?
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\nThanks,
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\nWebster","dateCreated":"1286385688","smartDate":"Oct 6, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"davidgarethw","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/davidgarethw","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"28076411","body":"Mr Webster,
\nI agree that the narrators in books may not always be 100% reliable. We don't know for sure if Lily is telling us the whole truth. But, we have no way of knowing if she is or not unless she tells us. So instead of saying "We know everything about her", I'll change that line to "Since Lily narrates the story in first person, we know what she is thinking and feeling based on what she tells us".
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\nAlso, the reason first person narration makes us feel more connected to the characters is because we are finding out about things at the same time as Lily. This is because we are seeing Lily's reaction the same time we are reacting. Instead of a third person narrator saying "May drowned and Lily was sad," Lily is telling us herself. It makes us feel like a part of the story.","dateCreated":"1286392846","smartDate":"Oct 6, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"gmurphy3","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/gmurphy3","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"28124593","body":"Great Grace,
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\nThanks for thinking this through. Well put and well defended.
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\nThanks,
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\nWebster","dateCreated":"1286467520","smartDate":"Oct 7, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"davidgarethw","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/davidgarethw","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}}],"more":0}]},{"id":"28030303","dateCreated":"1286322620","smartDate":"Oct 5, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"fabig1","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/fabig1","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/pic\/1229012865\/fabig1-lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/davidgarethw-books-b.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/28030303"},"dateDigested":1531973886,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"The catcher in the rye","description":" \u201cCatcher in the rye\u201d by J.D Salinger is written in a first person narrative by a boy named Holden Caulfield. The story tells us about his life during his teens and what he thinks of society. He is lost in the world and is unsure of what to do next most of the book. The narrative components that work very well with this book is that it almost seems like a stream of consciousness. I did not notice this before but thinking about it now, it is quite clear that we are in Holden\u2019s mind and are trying to analyze it with the information that the author is giving to us. Another component that works is the way that most of the main problems of Holden are hidden behind what he says, What I have to do, I have to catch everybody if they start to go over the cliff - I mean if they're running and they don't look where they're going I have to come out from somewhere and catch them.
\nThat's all I do all day. I'd just be the catcher in the rye and all. I know it's crazy, but that's the only thing I'd really like to be."(Chapter 22)
\nThis quote shows us that he wants to protect the children so that they don\u2019t fall into the abysm that he is in right now, it also shows that he cares and that some people are not forged as he always says. The book is also about Holden and his cynical view of the world around him. He is always saying what he will do and how he interprets most of the opinions of other people, it is almost like if he is telling the reader what to do in certain situations,
\n\u201cDon\u2019t ever tell anybody anything. If you do, you start missing everybody.\u201d Every time I read through one of those sentences, I feel like if he was giving me advice on life when the real person that needs advice is him which is one of the reasons that the book became so famous. It is well written and truly expresses a character that can be seen as a hypocrite or a genius at life. He can be seen as a hypocrite because he is always saying how people are fake and are not really who they are, like when everybody claps at Ernie when he is playing the piano just because one person starts clapping, everybody starts to follow the first person and they are clapping at someone who played bad. Some things that we discuss in class that work very well is that it is sometimes a minimalist book that hides the details that are important and reveal a big part about Holden. I really enjoyed reading this book and also how I had to read in between the lines and add conclusions and extra information myself in order to get the big picture of Holden and truly understand the book and the story about Holden Caulfield.","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[{"id":"28067869","body":"Alright Fabian,
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\nGood work, but a have a bit of a question for you?
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\nYou say that this is stream-of-conscious writing, yet then you go on to say that we are trying to analyze the information that he is 'giving us'. Isn't stream-of-conscious writing without intention, without an agenda, without the effort to let someone know something? Isn't it just thinking? So which is Holden's voice? You seem to contradict yourself here and I would like you to go back and try to re-think this through and let me know what you discover.
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\nThanks,
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\nWebster","dateCreated":"1286385338","smartDate":"Oct 6, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"davidgarethw","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/davidgarethw","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"28075681","body":"Mr. Webster what i feel when Holden is talking is that he sort of shuts down his senses and only talks to the reader like if there was nothing else, thats why i think that it is kind of a stream of consciousness some of the times but not a lot.","dateCreated":"1286392095","smartDate":"Oct 6, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"fabig1","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/fabig1","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/pic\/1229012865\/fabig1-lg.jpg"}},{"id":"28120571","body":"Can you give me an example of this, please? (And watch your grammar).
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\nThanks,
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\nWebster","dateCreated":"1286462753","smartDate":"Oct 7, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"davidgarethw","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/davidgarethw","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"28159859","body":"An example of this is when he is talking about how he lies, "I'm the most terrific liar you ever saw in your life. It's awful. If I'm on my way to the store to buy a magazine, even, and somebody asks me where I'm going, I'm liable to say I'm going to the opera. It's terrible." He starts to digress into other lies and talks to the reader and telling him what and how he lies instead of just saying that he knows how to lie.","dateCreated":"1286502285","smartDate":"Oct 7, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"fabig1","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/fabig1","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/pic\/1229012865\/fabig1-lg.jpg"}},{"id":"28194943","body":"Thanks Fabian,
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\nWebster","dateCreated":"1286560346","smartDate":"Oct 8, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"davidgarethw","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/davidgarethw","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}}],"more":0}]}],"more":true},"comments":[]},"http":{"code":200,"status":"OK"},"redirectUrl":null,"javascript":null,"notices":{"warning":[],"error":[],"info":[],"success":[]}}