{"content":{"sharePage":{"page":0,"digests":[{"id":"26841571","dateCreated":"1284056352","smartDate":"Sep 9, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"ellagicacid","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/ellagicacid","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/pic\/1343664898\/ellagicacid-lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/davidgarethw-books-b.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/26841571"},"dateDigested":1531973900,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"Revelation - Stream of Consciousness","description":"Ella Nugent
\nStream of Consciousness - Revelation.
\nMary Grace's Mind
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\nThat big woman and my mother are so annoying can't they see im trying to read jeez they're loud couldn't they talk a little quieter and every time they shut up a little and i can read a sentence they start again is it really too much to ask just shut up for a little while I hate that woman always sending me pitying looks just like those kids at my school always looking down on me and pitying me cuz of my pimples and whispering in the hallway i don't want their pity and i don't want her stupid pity she's fat and ugly like a warthog yeah a warthog that's what she is and will they ever shut UP? and now my mothers talking about me and in front of all these strangers I hate them i hate them i hate the lot of them. But especially that warthog, that ugly loud laughter she wont stop looking at me with those little black eyes I wish i could do something, do anything to just make them shut up shut up shut up and now the warthog is praisin' jesus for her wonderful life well she shouldn't cuz she's just an ugly warthog from hell. yeah that'll do old ugly warthog from hell i cant take them anymore always looking and looking at me and my mothers at it too telling them i never smile and im not grateful for anything and that fat woman saying how grateful she is for everything this room is too small cant breathe and i just wanna hit her with something i cant take her anymore yeah this book'll do","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[{"id":"26846625","body":"Ella,
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\nThis is certainly well done. One of the better examples I've read. You weave between momeory and sense triggers very well.
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\nImpressed,
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\nWesbter","dateCreated":"1284062695","smartDate":"Sep 9, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"davidgarethw","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/davidgarethw","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}}],"more":0}]},{"id":"26809645","dateCreated":"1283994595","smartDate":"Sep 8, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"cecyrodriguez","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/cecyrodriguez","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/davidgarethw-books-b.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/26809645"},"dateDigested":1531973900,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"A good man is hard to find question","description":"I am going to write the thought process of the Mother in the story \u00a8A Good Man Is Hard To Find\u00a8\u00a8 by Flannery O\u00b4Connor. This scene is when the family is in the car and the Grandmother is about to tell her story about Mr. Edgar Atkins Teagarden.
\n\u00a8Oh no, here she goes again with one of her boring stories about her life. She could at least switch it up a little and tell a story about something else that is not about her boring life. I remember when we were sitting outside the house and she started telling us a story and I fell asleep. I was just so tired, and when I woke up she got mad and stopped talking to me for the rest of the day. I think it was last Tuesday or Monday. Either way, it wasn\u00b4t as hot as it is today. I hate hot days they make me all sweaty and tired. I really, really hope the climate is better in Florida, because if not, I will not enjoy it as much. Neither will the baby. When we get there I need to check his temperature. When I touch him I feel him hotter than usual. I hope the baby isn\u00b4t sick, like the time John Wesley got sick, when he was a baby. Bailey was so worried, I think it was the time I saw him the most worried in all our life together. Wait, no, I\u00b4ve seen him more worried before, I just can\u00b4t remember when. I think it was right after we got married and found out our car was stolen. Yes, I\u2019m pretty sure that was it. I remember that day I was wearing that pink dress that I think I still have in the closet. I don\u00b4t know why is still have it. I don\u00b4t think it even looks good on me anymore, because last time I wore it was like what, 2 years ago? Yeah more or less, because I wore it for this dinner party we had, and Bailey\u00b4s mom told me I looked fat. I\u00b4m sorry but she can\u00b4t call me fat, because I\u2019ve seen pictures of her when she was around my age and she wasn\u00b4t particularly skinny herself. I am not the kind of person that is going to tell her that anyways. I will just keep everything to myself, like I always do. \u00a8","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[{"id":"26845471","body":"Cecilia,
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\nI think that it is great that you gave us an example from a different point-of-view, the Mother. Ambitious and creative... yet one question I would like you to answer and write a little about... When we are remembering things, thinking them to ourselves, do we actually say, in our heads, "I remember"? How then (ok, two questions), how then does this fit in with stream of conscious writing.
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\nThanks,
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\nWebster","dateCreated":"1284061640","smartDate":"Sep 9, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"davidgarethw","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/davidgarethw","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}}],"more":0}]},{"id":"26803437","dateCreated":"1283986546","smartDate":"Sep 8, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"marinacoccaro","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/marinacoccaro","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/davidgarethw-books-b.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/26803437"},"dateDigested":1531973900,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"A good man is hard to fin","description":"I swear I\u2019ve seen this man before. He looks so familiar, why can\u2019t I remember who he is? Why? Why? I know I am an old lady but my memory was always so sharp, so fast, so quick. I can swear this is not the first time I look at this face. He must be someone famous, maybe a celebrity, who knows? But I\u2019ve lived for so long, I\u2019ve met so many people, experienced so many things. It\u2019s not my fault I can\u2019t remember this little detail. But it\u2019s my fault we\u2019ve suffered this accident, of that I am sure. Oh my God, what in the world will happen when Bailey discovers the house I once lived in was in Tennessee, not Georgia? He will probably leave me in the middle of this dirty road all by myself. It will take days, maybe even weeks for anyone to find me. I will probably starve to death. I won\u2019t have nothing to drink, no water\u2026Its impossible for a human being to live more than a week with no water. I am already starting to get dizzy, the sun is so hot, so bright; it seems it\u2019s getting closer and closer to me. I can see it approaching towards my way. I will faint. My legs! I can\u2019t feel my legs! I\u2019m gonna fall, I need some food, I need to sit, to rest. I want to be back in The Tower again. Listening to the \u201cTennessee Waltz\u201d\u2026craving to dance, having a pleasant conversation with Red Sammy Butts. Red Sammy Butts! Wait a second, The Misfit! We were talking about The Misfit! He is the Misfit, I knew it, I knew it all this time. This shirtless man is The Misfit.","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[{"id":"26805317","body":"This is a great example of a stream of consciousness because of the way it\u2019s written. It really shows the way someone\u2019s mind can wander off subject. When we think of something, it can trigger something else from our memory, and that is exactly what happens in this stream of consciousness. I love the way you wrote the grandmother finally realizing that she was talking to the misfit. She thinks of Sammy Butts, which makes her think of their conversation about the misfit, which makes her realize the man is the Misfit. I also love the line \u201ccraving to dance\u201d. You mention a lot of details from the story, which really helps us get to know the grandmother's character. I think that if we were inside the grandmother\u2019s head, this is exactly what she would be thinking.","dateCreated":"1283989214","smartDate":"Sep 8, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"gmurphy3","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/gmurphy3","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"26845155","body":"Alright Marina,
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\nThis is decent writing and you certainly show us the inner thoughts if the granny, yet how, especially after today's class, might you respond if I were to claim that this is a little to organized and cohesive to truly represent stream-of-conscious writing? You don't have to answer this, but I would like you to address this question.
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\nThanks,
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\nWebster","dateCreated":"1284061209","smartDate":"Sep 9, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"davidgarethw","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/davidgarethw","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"26845255","body":"Grace, I agree and disagree with you on this one... I think you did a good job detailing how we jump from one thought to the next (Sammy Butts to the Misfit) but I would like you to go back and pull in some of the terms and elements we went over in class, the ones identifying stream-of-conscious writing and see whether you continue to feel the way you do.
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\nThanks,
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\nWebster","dateCreated":"1284061362","smartDate":"Sep 9, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"davidgarethw","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/davidgarethw","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"26898535","body":"While this paragraph is a bit more organized than a stream of consciousness should be, I still consider it one. It describes what the grandmother is thinking l and shows the readers exactly what is going through her head. I think it does a good job of expressing the way human beings think because one idea triggers another idea which triggers another idea and so on.","dateCreated":"1284150967","smartDate":"Sep 10, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"gmurphy3","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/gmurphy3","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"26937023","body":"Thanks,
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\nWebster","dateCreated":"1284317217","smartDate":"Sep 12, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"davidgarethw","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/davidgarethw","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}}],"more":0}]},{"id":"26802149","dateCreated":"1283984559","smartDate":"Sep 8, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"luisuarez","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/luisuarez","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/pic\/1302804674\/luisuarez-lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/davidgarethw-books-b.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/26802149"},"dateDigested":1531973901,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"A good Man Is Hard To find","description":"As I was rolling in the car I thought that I was going to die my life flashed before my eyes I remembered my early days all the good things that happened in my lifetime I remembered a long time ago playing in the garden in front of my house with the green plants and smelly lilies of my house in which I had a lot of memories like the day that my mother punished me for something that I didn\u2019t do my mother thought that I broke the glass jar speaking of jar I am very thirsty I wish I could drink a Coca-Cola right now I hope that it is cold I remember when I was freezing when I visited my sister where is my sister anyways she probably is in her house drinking a cup of tea I wish I was British to drink tea every evening and have English muffins I could eat an entire cow I\u2019m starving to death like the other day that I was hungry and I ate a cookie with milk poor cows why do they have to give milk to humans by the way why are humans in the earth that probably will never be known only God knows l assume because God is everything and the answer to everything what is everything anyways why am I here I wanted to show the kids the house with the secret panel what was I thinking it\u2019s the dumbest thing I\u2019ve said in long time thanks to this panel I\u2019m now in a car turning around with my life at risk hopefully I\u2019ll live out of this one again unless something really extreme happens I mean what could happen.","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[{"id":"26806919","body":"Luis, you have good ideas, and the scene you chose is very unique and precise; I like how you described the scene towards the end instead of the beginning. There are parts of this that do illustrate stream of consciousness very well, \u201clike the day that my mother punished me for something that I didn\u2019t do my mother thought that I broke the glass jar speaking of jar I am very thirsty I wish I could drink a Coca-Cola right now\u201d, the old lady\u2019s thoughts flow smoothly from one to another without having to use a lot of punctuation. However, there are several instances were I believe stream of consciousness is not executed correctly, for instance, \u201cAs I was rolling in the car I thought that I was going to die my life flashed before my eyes\u201d. It seems as if she was telling the story to someone instead of it being inside her head, in this form of writing it is not necessary to write \u201cI thought\u201d because most of what is being told are actual thoughts. I like the originality of your thoughts, and how you included memories from her past that would have never crossed my mind before. I enjoyed it a lot and I especially like the part when you mention that she feels bad about taking them to see the old house, because even though we assume she does it is never actually said in the story.","dateCreated":"1283991331","smartDate":"Sep 8, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"cristinarojas1","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/cristinarojas1","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"26810317","body":"I love this example of a stream of consciousness because it brings memories that are one of the things that trigger the stream of consciousness. I also like that one things leads to another like, \u00a8 I\u2019m starving to death like the other day that I was hungry and I ate a cookie with milk poor cows why do they have to give milk to humans \u00a8 It begins talking about milk and then it talks about cows and so on. I also like that you use the external sensory to bring back things and thoughts, like when you mention the smell of the lilies in the house.","dateCreated":"1283995434","smartDate":"Sep 8, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"cecyrodriguez","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/cecyrodriguez","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"26845571","body":"Luis,
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\nEvocative writing... but I have a couple of questions... When you are thinking to yourself, remembering, how often do you actually say "I remember"? Do you think that it fits in with stream-of-conscious writing? You don't need to change this but I would like you to address these questions.
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\nThanks,
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\nWebster","dateCreated":"1284061780","smartDate":"Sep 9, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"davidgarethw","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/davidgarethw","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"26845695","body":"Christina,
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\nWell put. I feel that you have a grasp on the difference between free-flowing thoughts and structured thinking and how they might be expressed in writing.
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\nThanks,
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\nWebster","dateCreated":"1284061920","smartDate":"Sep 9, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"davidgarethw","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/davidgarethw","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"26845789","body":"Celcila,
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\nI would like you to go back and make this longer... It is too short and under-developed. It might help if you bring in some of the elements and components of stream-of-conscious writing.
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\nThanks,
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\nWebster","dateCreated":"1284062011","smartDate":"Sep 9, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"davidgarethw","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/davidgarethw","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}}],"more":0}]},{"id":"26801369","dateCreated":"1283983169","smartDate":"Sep 8, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"fabig1","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/fabig1","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/pic\/1229012865\/fabig1-lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/davidgarethw-books-b.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/26801369"},"dateDigested":1531973902,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"Stream of Conscious Revelation ","description":" God damn this woman is so annyoing thinking that she is so better than me with her pretty shoes but it is much better than those Negros that can\u2019t do anything they only eat and sleep but then again there are much worst things in the world than those two things but still I would rather be a Negro than a white trash thank baby Jesus for that wow that daughter of that white trash lady is soooo ugly you can barely see her face because of all the pimples that surround it and boy she is fat probably can\u2019t even walk for a few hundred feet without having to stop for a break and that boy looks like he is rebellious and a bad listener if I didn\u2019t do what my mom told me to do when I was young boy was I in trouble that boy needs a good whipping and that girl needs to be sociable and be more happy this white trash mom needs someone to raise her children because she certainly cannot and is very bad at it thank the lord that my mom was not like that because I would hate to turn out to be a little brat like those two kids.","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[{"id":"26802429","body":"Fabian, you did a decent job trying to make a stream of conscience out of a character that appears to be difficult. You really got the taste and the feeling to make a stream of conscience, also because you matched the themes you wrote with the actual story of "Revelation". This is a good example because the connections made between ideas appear to be much related and fluid. \u201cBoy she is fat probably can\u2019t even walk for a few hundred feet without having to stop for a break\u201d This is a clear example of the goodness of the work because it appear to certainly be real, and very truthful. This is a good example, nice job.","dateCreated":"1283985011","smartDate":"Sep 8, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"luisuarez","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/luisuarez","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/pic\/1302804674\/luisuarez-lg.jpg"}},{"id":"26824135","body":"Good Fabian
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\nThis is unstructured writing, writing like we think. I think that this is one of the better examples we have.
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\nThanks,
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\nWebster","dateCreated":"1284035552","smartDate":"Sep 9, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"davidgarethw","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/davidgarethw","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"26824239","body":"Luis,
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\nGood, but too short and not deep enough. Please delve deeper into the text and consider the components of stream-of-conciousness literature.
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\nAlso, please provide us with the definitions of 'concious' and 'conscience'.
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\nThanks,
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\nWebster","dateCreated":"1284035691","smartDate":"Sep 9, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"davidgarethw","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/davidgarethw","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}}],"more":0}]},{"id":"26792903","dateCreated":"1283970386","smartDate":"Sep 8, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"cristinarojas1","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/cristinarojas1","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/davidgarethw-books-b.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/26792903"},"dateDigested":1531973902,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"A Good Man is hard to find monologue","description":"\u201cA Good Man is hard to find\u201d
\n\u201cThe Misfit\u201d Monologue
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\n\u201cLady would you mind calling your children to sit down by you, children make me nervous\u201d that\u2019s it\u2026 there you go, go sit next to your momma far far away why the hell would any body want kids anyway oh they are just so annoying so pesky-what the hell is that guy doing up there we gotta stick to our schedule I aint going back to that sh-t hole oh grandma shut up PLEASE I just can\u2019t take it God I wish I could just shoot her right here now and all of her little pest of a family ok calm down calm down the plan is going well but it won\u2019t work out if Bobby doesn\u2019t hurry what is taking him so long? Oh these idiots I guess if you want something done well you gotta do it yourself who does this idiot momma\u2019s boy think he is? Does he really think he is going to live to see another day pff poor bastard what\u2026 Bailey, did she really just call him that BAILEY his parents must not like him very much Bailey ha-ha damn is it sunny today wish I had a shirt those fools we stole form before probably hadn\u2019t had a square meal in months these jeans will pop any second now probably spent all their money at the slots -shut up lady shut up I can\u2019t take another word from her mouth just want a rip it off -well maybe this douche has some decent clothes somewhere unless they all look as ridiculous as the one he is wearing I rather go without -blue parrots seriously he really deserves one between they eyes looks like he suffered enough already with that pain of a mother and those children..ugh\u2026children.","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[{"id":"26801917","body":"I really like this example of stream of consciousness because it\u00b4s really creative. When I first read the story, as weird as it sounds, I always thought about the Misfit as the \u201cpolite\u201d bad guy. However, Cristina\u00b4s example presented me a point of view I didn\u00b4t thought about when reading. The way the character is described in the story makes one assume that there\u00b4s really a possibility that he could really be a good man, what makes thinking out of the box a challenge to your imagination. I also liked the punctuation of this example a lot, because I think stream of consciousness needs a balanced punctuation for it to be an understandable \u201cstream\u201d of thoughts; this means that it needs punctuation to separated certain ideas and make it understandable, but without interrupting the flow of thoughts that makes up this techniques.","dateCreated":"1283984183","smartDate":"Sep 8, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"eli-picado","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/eli-picado","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/pic\/1283475869\/eli-picado-lg.jpg"}},{"id":"26823909","body":"Great work Christina,
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\nThis really has an aspect of unstructed thought, thinking without explaining, without premeditation.
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\nGreat,
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\nThanks,
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\nWebster","dateCreated":"1284035206","smartDate":"Sep 9, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"davidgarethw","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/davidgarethw","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"26824083","body":"Eli,
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\nI think it's terrific that you are open enough to have Christina's well-written work shift your thinking on O'Connor's character. I am just wondering whether thepoint of stream-of-concious writing, wheteher it is really always supposed to make sense, to explain things to us in a clear way... You mention that this is fitting (with regard to Christina's use of punctuation) but, really, why should the reader have to "get" everything?
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\nThanks,
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\nWebster","dateCreated":"1284035427","smartDate":"Sep 9, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"davidgarethw","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/davidgarethw","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}}],"more":0}]},{"id":"26790983","dateCreated":"1283967693","smartDate":"Sep 8, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"eli-picado","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/eli-picado","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/pic\/1283475869\/eli-picado-lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/davidgarethw-books-b.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/26790983"},"dateDigested":1531973902,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"Wiki Response to A Good Man is Hard to Find and Revelations","description":"This stream of consciousness corresponds to the grandmother\u00b4s thoughts when she is sitting in the car waiting for everyone to be ready.
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\nFlorida!! Florida!! Why would we go to Florida instead of Tennessee there is interesting activities in Tennessee that you will never find in Florida like\u2026 like\u2026 oh ok then I can\u00b4t think of anything they could find interesting but they could be considered and take me there I\u00b4m the oldest person here and my time is running out If only I could persuade Bailey he is so stubborn about every aspect of his life just like his father used to be stubborn and astute it\u00b4s a shame he is not considered though he could take me to Tennessee even knowing there\u00b4s a criminal rounding in Florida he would rather get killed that take his own poor mother to meet her old friends to remember old times with them to remember when his mother was just a pretty young lady before I met his father oh those were good times I enjoyed being a mom but oh good times how I really like remembering good times and see old friends still they are not taking me to Tennessee so I could start forgetting about the idea not even the children\u00b4s mother would be on my side I never liked that woman she reminds me of that old neighbor I used to have so busybody that woman always minding other people\u00b4s business I just can\u00b4t think about her without anger I need to find other thoughts\u2026 other thoughts\u2026 oh sure Tennessee we are going to Florida instead well if we are not going where I want I\u00b4m definitely taking the cat it\u00b4s to dangerous to leave Pitty Sing alone in the house it could be dangerous to the house too and I don\u00b4t want to hear that busybody\u00b4s speech about her furniture again oh if I could go back to old times and bring my furniture back with me to the present and replace that ugly furniture of hers she\u00b4s got the same taste in furniture as in clothing just like\u2026 oh I can\u00b4t remember her name the old lady that used to visit my husband and that we visit once an unforgettable visit her furniture was so ugly just like the busybody\u00b4s who doesn\u00b4t want to take me to Tennessee\u2026","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[{"id":"26804099","body":"I've really enjoyed reading Elizabeth's text, since she provides us with a great insight of what is going on inside the old lady's head. Her expressions are very appropriate. The old lady thinks of her young years, how she dislikes her daughter in law (and even compares her with an old neighbor of hers) and how awful it is for them to take a trip to Florida. All of her thoughts revolve around the idea that going to Tennessee is a much better idea than visiting Florida instead. She even tries to convince herself that there are so many things to do in Tennessee, and none in Florida in the other hand\u2026but she can\u2019t even remember what they are: \u201cFlorida!! Florida!! Why would we go to Florida instead of Tennessee there is interesting activities in Tennessee that you will never find in Florida like\u2026 like\u2026 oh ok then I can\u00b4t think of anything they could find interesting\u201d. The old lady even makes a comparison of her son\u2019s stubbornness with his dad\u2019s, someone that hadn\u2019t even appeared in this story. It seems that she is making a retrospective of her life, and everything she remembers brings her back to her \u201cgolden times\u201d.","dateCreated":"1283987605","smartDate":"Sep 8, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"marinacoccaro","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/marinacoccaro","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"26824337","body":"Very very good, Elizabeth,
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\nThis is good writing. You did not lose the reader , yet this really reflects the way we might think things through.
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\nThanks,
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\nWebster","dateCreated":"1284035828","smartDate":"Sep 9, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"davidgarethw","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/davidgarethw","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"26824397","body":"Thanks Marina,
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\nI would like you to go back and alpply some of the terms and elements of which we have discussed and reference Elizabeth's text.
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\nThanks,
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\nWebster","dateCreated":"1284035927","smartDate":"Sep 9, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"davidgarethw","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/davidgarethw","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"26920771","body":"In Elizabeth's text we see how one thought leads to another, and even though they dont happen in a chronological order, we can clearly understand. Each thought triggers to another that is somehow related to the previous one.
\n"I don\u00b4t want to hear that busybody\u00b4s speech about her furniture again oh if I could go back to old times and bring my furniture back with me to the present and replace that ugly furniture of hers she\u00b4s got the same taste in furniture as in clothing just like\u2026" This is an example of very good writing, since one thought triggers to another.
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\n(Sorry I am responding this late, I forgot to check this before)
\nThanks,
\nMarina","dateCreated":"1284241841","smartDate":"Sep 11, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"marinacoccaro","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/marinacoccaro","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}}],"more":0}]},{"id":"26781543","dateCreated":"1283955230","smartDate":"Sep 8, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"alabuda","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/alabuda","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/davidgarethw-books-b.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/26781543"},"dateDigested":1531973903,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"A good man is hard to find","description":"Exapmle: A good man is hard to find - grandmother
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\nI really hope that the grandkids are going to enjoy this house. It\u2019s not far away from here, it can\u2019t be; I remember it clearly; it was at the end of a dirty road with the woods all around it, I can\u2019t miss it. I even remember where the secret panel is. I have so many good memories from Tennessee. What a pity that we can\u2019t go there! I really don\u2019t like the idea of going to Florida. I hope my son will not get upset for dragging the kids here; they will be having so much\u2026oh my God\u2026the house is not here. It never was! It was a house in Tennessee, not in Georgia! My son is going to be so furious; and the kids will be disappointed, too! Oh that stupid cat, it always wants to get out of the cage, oh ok I\u2019ll let you go out. Oh no no don\u2019t go there kitty! No not on my son! Oh no we are getting out of the road! Where am I? Is this heaven? No it can\u2019t be, it\u2019s the car, oh God we had an accident! Is everyone ok, where\u2019s the cat, oh my God I am sure that my son is going to kill it now! He surely will. He never liked it. The children are talking; they are ok! Oh thank God. Oh my stomach hurts; let\u2019s hope that Baliey will not be so mad at me. Not right now at least. Oh why did I have to buy that cat back in Louisiana, it was such a bad idea. Oh but I could never resist little cute animals. I remember when I was a little girl and I used to have this horse. No, I could never resist animals. Oh little kitty. Oh! I should better get out of this car, I am not feeling well. I have to check on my family; oh good they are all here. We are going to be alright.","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[{"id":"26801911","body":"I think that this is a well-written stream-of-consciousness paragraph because you really know what is going on in the mind of the grandmother and know what and how she is thinking. One thought changes into another quickly, which is good. I really like the quote, \u201cThey will be having so much\u2026oh my God\u2026the house is not here. It never was! It was a house in Tennessee, not in Georgia!\u201d because it shows that she all of a sudden changes one thought into another. One of the things that could be changed is the use of the word \u201coh\u201d because it was maybe used too many times. Also the quote \u201cI have to check on my family; oh good they are all here. We are going to be alright\u201d should be changed as well because the grandmother would probably never think or say such a thing because she\u2019s a bit selfish and usually thinks about herself only.","dateCreated":"1283984174","smartDate":"Sep 8, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"lottej95","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/lottej95","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"26823685","body":"Alright Agneiska,
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\nDo we really address our family members by their role when we think about them (i.e, "my son")? You don't need to change this but I would like you to consider and answer whether might be a little to clear, cohesive, structured and linear for what we have been looking at...
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\nThanks,
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\nWebster","dateCreated":"1284034943","smartDate":"Sep 9, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"davidgarethw","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/davidgarethw","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"26823781","body":"Lotte,
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\nPlease read my response to Agnieska and answer address that concern as well.
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\nThanks,
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\nWebster","dateCreated":"1284035070","smartDate":"Sep 9, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"davidgarethw","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/davidgarethw","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"26853393","body":"Yes I agree that it was maybe a little too structured and clear to be a stream-of-consciousness. I've noticed now that a stream-of-consciousness should use less punctuation and the thoughts should be more of a jumble or unstructured.","dateCreated":"1284071614","smartDate":"Sep 9, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"lottej95","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/lottej95","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"26936809","body":"Right Lotte,
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\nThanks,
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\nWebster","dateCreated":"1284316886","smartDate":"Sep 12, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"davidgarethw","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/davidgarethw","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}}],"more":0}]},{"id":"26768683","dateCreated":"1283921301","smartDate":"Sep 7, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"gmurphy3","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/gmurphy3","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/davidgarethw-books-b.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/26768683"},"dateDigested":1531973903,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"A Good Man Is Hard To Find: Grandmother's Stream of Consciousness ","description":"What a beautiful day. I just love driving on days like this, especially with my Bailey boy and his family. I can\u2019t wait to see this house; I hope it\u2019s as beautiful as I remember it, with its white columns and oak tree path. It better be beautiful or Bailey will start to fuss with me about how the drive down was not worth it. I just know John Wesley and little June Star will love it, though I wish they would hush. Those two sure can talk. I wonder who lives there now. Wouldn\u2019t it be something if they found the hidden silver in the secret panel? This road is a bit longer than I remember. I could have sworn it only took about twenty minutes. Now that I think about it, this road looks completely different from the one I remember. Maybe my memory is getting fuzzy. How many plantation houses like this could I have been to? I remember there was that one in Tennessee, the one with the \u2013 oh lord. Wait a minute; the house with the hidden panel isn\u2019t in Georgia, its in Tennessee! How could I have forgotten that? Oh Jesus, what should I tell Bailey? Should I even tell Bailey at all? Its going to be a bit suspicious when we drive down the road and there\u2019s no house at the end, what\u2019ll I say then? This is far too embarrassing. I won\u2019t say anything. I refuse to lose my pride like that, I\u2019m a lady after all.","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[{"id":"26801461","body":"I think that Grace did a great job in showing a stream of consciousness because it shows all of the Grandmothers thoughts and feelings that she is currently going through. It is like if we were inside of her brain and paying close attention to everything that she is thinking about.","dateCreated":"1283983342","smartDate":"Sep 8, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"fabig1","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/fabig1","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/pic\/1229012865\/fabig1-lg.jpg"}},{"id":"26823473","body":"Grace,
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\nThanks, and don't worrry, you don't need to change this, but i would like you to consider and answer the following... what might be the difference between stream-of-conciousness expression and a first person narrator laying everything out for the reader to understand, a connected line of thoughts in which the story is explained? Which do you think your writing might fall into?
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\nThanks,
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\nWebster","dateCreated":"1284034661","smartDate":"Sep 9, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"davidgarethw","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/davidgarethw","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"26823543","body":"Fabian,
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\nI would like you to go back and reference Grace's text and perhaps use some of the elements and terms which constitute stream-of-conciousness writing here. This is way too short and under-developed. Please re-read the directions.
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\nThanks,
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\nWebster","dateCreated":"1284034758","smartDate":"Sep 9, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"davidgarethw","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/davidgarethw","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"26839369","body":"Grace did a great job in showing a stream of consciousness. It shows the inner thoughts and feelings of the Grandmother every time something happens. It also shows us the characteristics of a stream of consciousness because it shows us her thoughts in an unordered way and we cannot guess the next thing that she will think or feel. For example when she is talking about the children
\n"It better be beautiful or Bailey will start to fuss with me about how the drive down was not worth it..." and then starts a new topic, followed by another new topic. This is why it is a good example of a Stream of Consciousness","dateCreated":"1284054001","smartDate":"Sep 9, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"fabig1","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/fabig1","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/pic\/1229012865\/fabig1-lg.jpg"}},{"id":"26846069","body":"Alright Fabian,
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\nThanks for answering and I still think it is not quite enough... Please go back then and answer the question I asked Grace.
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\nThanks,
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\nWebster","dateCreated":"1284062241","smartDate":"Sep 9, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"davidgarethw","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/davidgarethw","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"26852621","body":"Grace,
\nI think you captured the Grandmother's thoughts and essence very well, particularly at the end; "I refuse to lose my pride like that, I\u2019m a lady after all.\u201d This is especially good because it also reflects very well on the part when it describes the grandmother: \u201cHer collars and cuffs were white organdy trimmed with lace and at her neckline she had pinned a purple spray of cloth violets containing a sachet. In case of an accident, anyone seeing her dead on the highway would know at once that she was a lady.\u201d She keeps up the chattering, superficial ways of the grandmother and expresses the dread she feels when she realizes the house is in Tennessee brilliantly. The only critisism I have for this piece of writing is that it is structured and you can see the grandmother\u2019s thought process when it should be a bit messier and less coherent. Great job gracers","dateCreated":"1284070599","smartDate":"Sep 9, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"ellagicacid","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/ellagicacid","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/pic\/1343664898\/ellagicacid-lg.jpg"}},{"id":"26875145","body":"Some of the parts are a bit to organized and so, it falls into the first person narrator. It is structured in a way that the ideas are all full and come in a logical order. Even though it is a bit to structured, i still think that it is like a stream of consciousness because you can feel that you are inside her head and can read every thought.","dateCreated":"1284123152","smartDate":"Sep 10, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"fabig1","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/fabig1","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/pic\/1229012865\/fabig1-lg.jpg"}},{"id":"26898407","body":"I agree with Fabian. While this could be a stream of consciousness, it is organized in a way that could seem like a first person narrator. However, I still consider it a stream of consciousness because it fits the definition, which is a text that shows the character's thoughts and raw experiences. Just because it has punctuation, does not mean that its a first person narrator.","dateCreated":"1284150741","smartDate":"Sep 10, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"gmurphy3","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/gmurphy3","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"26936993","body":"Thanks Grace,
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\nI was hoping that you would answer the question directly, but...
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\nI am not so sure that I even mentioned punctuation in my objections... 'The New Dress' had not only punctuation but was also expressed by a third person narrator so...
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\nThanks,
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\nWebster","dateCreated":"1284317163","smartDate":"Sep 12, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"davidgarethw","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/davidgarethw","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"27057181","body":"Ella,
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\nThis is beautiful. Your in depth analysis of Grace's passage is both detailed and insightful. You use apposite quotations from the text to enforce your opinion and your critique is constructive, yet not at all harsh. It brings tears to my eyes. I do believe I shall print this out and tack it to my wall.
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\nGreat job.
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\nMaya","dateCreated":"1284512948","smartDate":"Sep 14, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"maaayyyaaa","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/maaayyyaaa","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/pic\/1222817730\/maaayyyaaa-lg.jpg"}}],"more":0}]},{"id":"26766183","dateCreated":"1283915275","smartDate":"Sep 7, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"Jenny-37715","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/Jenny-37715","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/pic\/1282875040\/Jenny-37715-lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/davidgarethw-books-b.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/26766183"},"dateDigested":1531973905,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"Stream of Consciousness A good man is hard to find","description":"Example: "A Good an is Hard to Find"- Grandmother
\nBailey is going to kill me but it really wasn\u2019t my fault I mean when I was a young girl I went to al lot of places and houses and how was I supposed to know or keep track where they were I mean I am an old fragile woman who bailey is going to kill but how do I know this man that just appeared!!! I mean I recognize his face he has that type of face that I would never forget if I saw it it is similar to the face of that friend I used to have when I was a young girl in Georgia\u2026 what was her name?? Well, he was a sweet boy and I went with him to that house and got into lots of trouble oh I wish I wouldn\u2019t have remembered that house because then I wouldn\u2019t have anything to tell the kids.. I always talk too much and Bailey should not hold that against me and if he does it is his fault for having curious children but really where do I know this guy from oh I really need to put my brain to work, that was what my mother always used to say put you brain to work but let me remember where I have seen his face maybe in a newspaper or a photo or where where where or maybe I am just confusing him for someone from my past just like I confused the house but no no I am sure I know this man\u2026. I just can\u2019t remember from where.. why did I have to become an old lady who can\u2019t remember a face when I was a young vivacious girl I had the best memory but now I can\u2019t even remember this guy and I know it is important to remember and if I don\u2019t remember maybe something will happen I mean with all these news on the newspaper you never know what will happen who you should trust the world is not safe anymore and I don\u2019t even have friends to talk to I only have my family which half of the time my son seems to hate me and my grandchildren have no education they don\u2019t care what goes on in the world and the mother never does anything to corrects them I mean Georgia being such a beautiful country with its green hills and beautiful scenery and they don\u2019t appreciate anything they are uncultured people but with all Georgia\u2019s beauty it is still quite unsafe, with all the danger like that man on the newspaper today which actually looks very much like this man, actually too much like this man oh lord oh lord, \u201cYour\u2019e The Misfit!\u201d","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[{"id":"26767489","body":"This is a good example of stream-of consciousness because it shows the grandmother\u2019s thought process. People begin to think when triggered by external stimuli, and then deviate from those thoughts. This is exemplified quite well in the previous paragraph. After the accident, the grandmother is thinking of what her son might do to her, and how angry he might be; however, she jumps to the thought of who the man is, \u201cI mean I am an old fragile woman who bailey is going to kill but how do I know this man that just appeared!!!\u201d When we think, we unconsciously jump from one subject to another and this takes place in several places of the paragraph. Part of stream-of- consciousness is to write about the thoughts and feelings of the character as they occur, rather than in an organized manner, and the paragraph is written in that way. There is not much structure, since it portrays the grandmother\u2019s thoughts as they appear in her mind. It goes from thinking that Bailey wants to kill her, to wondering who the man is, to talking about her childhood memories, to giving her opinion of the children, back to wondering who the man is and so on, until she figures out that the man is the Misfit.","dateCreated":"1283918066","smartDate":"Sep 7, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"mariangel94","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/mariangel94","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"26823319","body":"Jennifer,
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\nI think that this is a good example of the writing we are speaking of... You did a decent job of interweaving between memory and sensory triggers. I wonder if you could have done the same at a less 'dramatic' moment in the story, but next time I suppose...
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\nThanks,
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\nWebster","dateCreated":"1284034401","smartDate":"Sep 9, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"davidgarethw","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/davidgarethw","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"26823353","body":"Mariangel,
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\nGood, you have explained your understanding of the term well and referenced Jennifer's writing to make your point.
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\nThanks,
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\nWebster","dateCreated":"1284034452","smartDate":"Sep 9, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"davidgarethw","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/davidgarethw","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}}],"more":0}]}],"more":true},"comments":[]},"http":{"code":200,"status":"OK"},"redirectUrl":null,"javascript":null,"notices":{"warning":[],"error":[],"info":[],"success":[]}}