{"content":{"sharePage":{"page":0,"digests":[{"id":"39572522","dateCreated":"1306369505","smartDate":"May 25, 2011","userCreated":{"username":"Linndzy","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/Linndzy","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/pic\/1290198368\/Linndzy-lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/davidgarethw-books-b.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/39572522"},"dateDigested":1531973985,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"Lindsey Pent","description":"Leviathan
\n
\nBy George Oppen
\n
\nTruth also is the pursuit of it:
\nLike happiness, and it will not stand.
\n
\nEven the verse begins to eat away
\nIn the acid. Pursuit, pursuit;
\n
\nA wind moves a little,
\nMoving in a circle, very cold.
\n
\nHow shall we say?
\nIn ordinary discourse\u2014
\n
\nWe must talk now. I am no longer sure of the words,
\nThe clockwork of the world. What is inexplicable
\n
\nIs the 'preponderance of objects,' The sky lights
\nDaily with that predominance
\n
\nAnd we have become the present.
\n
\nWe must talk now. Fear
\nIs fear. But we abandon one another.
\n
\n
\n
\n\u201cLeviathan\u201d is a short poem that even though it is short it is also quite confusing. Aside from being confusing and hard to understand there are other things that make this poem unsuccessful. One thing that makes the poem unsuccessful is that the subject of the poem is unclear. Another thing that makes in unsuccessful is that because the subject of the poem is unclear it is impossible to discover the meaning and the themes that the poem is trying to express. A poem without a theme cannot be successful because there is no feeling or significance behind it. Something that also makes the poem unsuccessful is the randomness of the different stanzas makes the poem hard to follow. It also makes it hard to find the specific theme since there are several possible themes in each stanza and there aren\u2019t one or two solid themes, and that makes it unsuccessful. The word choice is another thing that makes in not successful. The selections of words in each stanza don\u2019t make sense in the overall poem. Each stanza might make sense in of itself but in the overall poem the different themes in the different stanzas only makes the poem confusing. \u201cLeviathan\u201d has some cute parts to it. But all in all it is an unsuccessful poem.","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[],"more":0}]},{"id":"39568016","dateCreated":"1306363224","smartDate":"May 25, 2011","userCreated":{"username":"ereiche","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/ereiche","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/pic\/1226183145\/ereiche-lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/davidgarethw-books-b.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/39568016"},"dateDigested":1531973986,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"Remember","description":"Remember
\nBy Chistina Rossetti
\n
\nRemember me when I am gone away,
\n Gone far away into the silent land;
\n When you can no more hold me by the hand,
\nNor I half turn to go yet turning stay.
\nRemember me when no more day by day
\n You tell me of our future that you planned:
\n Only remember me; you understand
\nIt will be late to counsel then or pray.
\nYet if you should forget me for a while
\n And afterwards remember, do not grieve:
\n For if the darkness and corruption leave
\n A vestige of the thoughts that once I had,
\nBetter by far you should forget and smile
\n Than that you should remember and be sad.
\n
\n
\nA combination of numerous aspects makes the poem \u201cRemember\u201d by Christina Rossetti, unsuccessful. Firstly, the poem\u2019s structure is very messy. The lack of stanzas and the crumbing of all the thoughts create confusion and chaos, instead of helping transmit the poem\u2019s message or point. This structure also affects the rhythm of the poem, which is noticeably weak. Even though a rhyme is present throughout the poem, the lack of stanzas affects the poems continuity. Without a clear point where a new idea begins, the reader can be confused by the lack of organization. Even thought this poem is not entirely unsuccessful, some changes would make it more clear and successful.","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[],"more":0}]},{"id":"39561360","dateCreated":"1306353029","smartDate":"May 25, 2011","userCreated":{"username":"nikki-wiki","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/nikki-wiki","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/davidgarethw-books-b.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/39561360"},"dateDigested":1531973986,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"Nikki Mora's Response ","description":"When you are old and grey and full of sleep,
\nAnd nodding by the fire, take down this book,
\nAnd slowly read, and dream of the soft look
\nYour eyes had once, and of their shadows deep;
\n
\nHow many loved your moments of glad grace,
\nAnd loved your beauty with love false or true,
\nBut one man loved the pilgrim soul in you,
\nAnd loved the sorrows of your changing face;
\n
\nAnd bending down beside the glowing bars,
\nMurmur, a little sadly, how Love fled
\nAnd paced upon the mountains overhead
\nAnd hid his face amid a crowd of stars.
\n
\nThis poem is successful because the descriptive words the author uses. The author makes the reader feel like they are actually looking at an old person and it also makes the reader imagine what it would be like when they are old.","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[],"more":0}]},{"id":"39556824","dateCreated":"1306347162","smartDate":"May 25, 2011","userCreated":{"username":"AmandaTrejos","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/AmandaTrejos","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/davidgarethw-books-b.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/39556824"},"dateDigested":1531973986,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"amanda trejos","description":"4 OFTEN by Jane Kenyon
\n
\n
\nOften I go to bed as soon after dinner
\nas seems adult
\n(I mean I try to wait for dark)
\nin order to push away
\nfrom the massive pain in sleep's
\nfrail wicker coracle.
\n
\nOften by Jane Keyton is the poem I chose to be the least successful. I believe it is ineffective because nowhere in the poem is rhythm or rhyme found and the poem doesn\u2019t give the reader a message. Poems don\u2019t necessarily have to give a message or have a deep meaning, but it needs to have a story behind it that at least makes some sense. This poem talks about a person that likes to go to sleep right after dinner. In my opinion, a successful poem needs to have background information that lets us know what the poem is about and what it is trying to tell the reader.","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[],"more":0}]},{"id":"39515846","dateCreated":"1306277862","smartDate":"May 24, 2011","userCreated":{"username":"arifishman95","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/arifishman95","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/davidgarethw-books-b.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/39515846"},"dateDigested":1531973986,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"My doggy","description":"My Doggy
\n
\nMy doggy pees
\nOn all the trees
\nAnd poops on all the flowers.
\nHe does no tricks
\nLike fetching sticks,
\nJust licks himself for hours.
\n
\n
\nThe structure of a poem doesn\u2019t relate with how good it might be. On the other hand, the content is much more important. If the reader can\u2019t feel related with the poem, then he\/she might find it boring. Furthermore, if the poem doesn\u2019t leave a space for the reader to interpret the meaning of certain words (or sentences) then the poem would be considered to be very bad. This may happen very often in poems where the descriptions tend to be very literal and without deepness. In the poem \u201cMy Doggy\u201d by David Scott Marley, you can see that the structure could be considered good. Even though it has very good and organized rhymes (AABCCB), and the syllables are structured in equal ways depending on the rhyme the verse has, the poem itself is still a very bad poem.
\nBy definition poetry is an imaginative awareness of experience expressed through meaning, sound, and rhythmic language choices so as to evoke an emotional response. The sound and the rhythm are never going to be as important as the language, the meaning, the expression and the emotional response. The last four elements are the basis of the good poetry, and if a poem lacks any of these, if will be unpleasant to read. Using this definition as an argument, \u201cMy doggy\u201d has good rhythm and good sound, but it lacks elevated language, and deep meanings, making it uncapable of evoking a very emotional response.","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[],"more":0}]},{"id":"39497910","dateCreated":"1306256004","smartDate":"May 24, 2011","userCreated":{"username":"melafavini","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/melafavini","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/davidgarethw-books-b.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/39497910"},"dateDigested":1531973986,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"melanie favini response","description":"A piece of green pepper
\n fell
\noff the wooden salad bowl:
\n so what?
\n
\nThe poem I find to be most unsuccessful is called Haiku Ambulance by Richard Brautigan because of the the weird description and the use of words that don't really have an important place in the poem. First, the poem itself talks about something really uninteresting. He stars of by describing a pepper falling. He says the pepper is green colored, which doesn't really have anything to do and is really random. Also, how he described the salad bowl to be made out of wood. Once again, a random description and really nothing to do. He also states how it's not important that the pepper fell from the salad bowl. So why should the color of the pepper and the material of the salad bowl be announced?","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[],"more":0}]},{"id":"39476398","dateCreated":"1306215513","smartDate":"May 23, 2011","userCreated":{"username":"cfgonzalez94","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/cfgonzalez94","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/davidgarethw-books-b.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/39476398"},"dateDigested":1531973986,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"Carlos Gonzalez Response","description":"Eating Poetry
\n\u00a0
\nby Mark Strand
\n
\nInk runs from the corners of my mouth.
\nThere is no happiness like mine.
\nI have been eating poetry.
\n
\nThe librarian does not believe what she sees.
\nHer eyes are sad
\nand she walks with her hands in her dress.
\n
\nThe poems are gone.
\nThe light is dim.
\nThe dogs are on the basement stairs and coming up.
\n
\nTheir eyeballs roll,
\ntheir blond legs burn like brush.
\nThe poor librarian begins to stamp her feet and weep.
\n
\nShe does not understand.
\nWhen I get on my knees and lick her hand,
\nshe screams.
\n
\nI am a new man.
\nI snarl at her and bark.
\nI romp with joy in the bookish dark.
\n
\nThere is no such thing of an unsuccessful poem. Poems depend not only on the poet but also in the way one decides to interpret it. The beauty of poetry lies on its openness. One can think of one thing while another person might think the total opposite; it lies on the point of view of people. Although there is no such thing as an unsuccessful poem, there are poems that are better than others. The poem Eating Poetry by Mark Strand for example can be written in a much concise style for say. This poem uses very dull and flat words that don\u2019t take the audience to another dimension. For instance, this poem can add adjectives and verbs that might take the reader to immense heights, but it doesn\u2019t. Not only does it use deadening words, but it also isn\u2019t able to entertain the reader. It doesn\u2019t engage the heart or soul of a reader and a good poem does. The reader is not able to identify themselves with the reader as well. Finally, this poem doesn\u2019t ignite any type of inspiration for the reader making it not as good as other poems that do.","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[],"more":0}]},{"id":"39476396","dateCreated":"1306215512","smartDate":"May 23, 2011","userCreated":{"username":"cfgonzalez94","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/cfgonzalez94","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/davidgarethw-books-b.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/39476396"},"dateDigested":1531973986,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"Carlos Gonzalez Response","description":"Eating Poetry
\n\u00a0
\nby Mark Strand
\n
\nInk runs from the corners of my mouth.
\nThere is no happiness like mine.
\nI have been eating poetry.
\n
\nThe librarian does not believe what she sees.
\nHer eyes are sad
\nand she walks with her hands in her dress.
\n
\nThe poems are gone.
\nThe light is dim.
\nThe dogs are on the basement stairs and coming up.
\n
\nTheir eyeballs roll,
\ntheir blond legs burn like brush.
\nThe poor librarian begins to stamp her feet and weep.
\n
\nShe does not understand.
\nWhen I get on my knees and lick her hand,
\nshe screams.
\n
\nI am a new man.
\nI snarl at her and bark.
\nI romp with joy in the bookish dark.
\n
\nThere is no such thing of an unsuccessful poem. Poems depend not only on the poet but also in the way one decides to interpret it. The beauty of poetry lies on its openness. One can think of one thing while another person might think the total opposite; it lies on the point of view of people. Although there is no such thing as an unsuccessful poem, there are poems that are better than others. The poem Eating Poetry by Mark Strand for example can be written in a much concise style for say. This poem uses very dull and flat words that don\u2019t take the audience to another dimension. For instance, this poem can add adjectives and verbs that might take the reader to immense heights, but it doesn\u2019t. Not only does it use deadening words, but it also isn\u2019t able to entertain the reader. It doesn\u2019t engage the heart or soul of a reader and a good poem does. The reader is not able to identify themselves with the reader as well. Finally, this poem doesn\u2019t ignite any type of inspiration for the reader making it not as good as other poems that do.","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[],"more":0}]},{"id":"39472634","dateCreated":"1306204508","smartDate":"May 23, 2011","userCreated":{"username":"dmarin464","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/dmarin464","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/pic\/1225941095\/dmarin464-lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/davidgarethw-books-b.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/39472634"},"dateDigested":1531973986,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"Unsuccesful Poem","description":""One way to look at reading: as the lifelong construction of a map by which to trace and plumb what it has ever meant to be in the world, and by which to gain perspective on that other, ongoing map\u2014the one that marks our own passage through the world as we both find and make it."
\n
\nFrom "Another and Another Before That: Some Thoughts on Reading," by Carl Phillips
\n
\nThis poem called my attention for the following reasons. This poem is unsuccessful becomes it lacks form. The content is present although it is confusing to link reading with constructing a map. This poem has no form, it doesn\u2019t have the rhythm that would make it flow or bolster the content. It is dull and simply colorless. It\u2019s more like just a saying or a proverb because it lacks the melody and coherence. A successful poem should have content that conveys a message that is shaped by form that gives it life and meaning. It gives it a purpose and understanding while formed by creativity, rhythm, and\/or figures of speech. The form is the yang to the yin of content, and it gives life to the meaning of the content.","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[],"more":0}]}],"more":false},"comments":[]},"http":{"code":200,"status":"OK"},"redirectUrl":null,"javascript":null,"notices":{"warning":[],"error":[],"info":[],"success":[]}}