{"content":{"sharePage":{"page":0,"digests":[{"id":"28162081","dateCreated":"1286505259","smartDate":"Oct 7, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"pprada","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/pprada","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/pic\/1315457538\/pprada-lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/davidgarethw-books-b.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/28162081"},"dateDigested":1531974049,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"Paula Prada","description":"The most successful story I have read has been Daisy Miller. It has been a story of my complete interest. I kind of relate to one of the characters in the story. Many times it has happened to me my parents warn me not to date someone because they feel the person is not meant to be with me. Either from their family background, or the reputation the person has created himself, or just because of the person\u2019s age. Of course, I ended up disobeying my parents, and the times I have disobeyed my parents I\u2019ve ended being disappointed and hurt from the situation. Winterbourne knew Daisy Miller was not for him, but he still wanted to be with her because there was just something so attractive of her. Even his aunt was against their being together. At the end, he ends up being disappointed. I would have liked reading the rest of the book to see if he learned from his mistakes, because they say humans are the only animals that trip over the same rock twice. I relate a lot to this story, and that\u2019s why I liked it the most.
\n The story that has been the least successful story has been \u201cSwimmer\u201d. Not only was it really hard to understand, but I thought the whole story was a glib; it was pointless. It doesn\u2019t really have a relevant problem, it talks about his foolish journey in which the plot is based on his moving from pool to pool, until he reaches his home and realizes he is not young anymore.. My question is; did it take him all the swimming to realize that? I believe that if the story is a metaphor of something else, or if it has a subliminal message I didn\u2019t really understand any of it. I also believe that if the story didn\u2019t have a message nor was it a metaphor, the story doesn\u2019t really have logic. What so ever it may be it was just really hard to read, and I didn\u2019t understand the story as good as I understood the other stories.
\n These two stories are both similar and different at the same time. I feel they are different in the sense that \u201cDaisy Miller\u201d was more concise, and you understood everything at the time. Unlike \u201cThe Swimmer\u201d which gave little information and gave you the space for you to assume or infer about the ending of the story. The characters also assume different personalities. For example, in \u201c Daisy Miller Winterbourne is the victim which was hurt and turned down by Daisy. In \u201cThe Swimmer\u201d the main character was the \u201cpimp\u201d that would have different girlfriends and he would be the one playing with their feelings. The characters also differentiate in ages as well. The Swimmer was an old guy, unlike Winterbourne who was young and na\u00efve. Some of the similarities are that both characters end up being disappointed at the end. Winterbourne is disappointed of Daisy, and The Swimmer is disappointed of his age.","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[{"id":"28194623","body":"Thanks Paula,
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\nWebster","dateCreated":"1286560127","smartDate":"Oct 8, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"davidgarethw","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/davidgarethw","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}}],"more":0}]},{"id":"28091995","dateCreated":"1286408058","smartDate":"Oct 6, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"Linndzy","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/Linndzy","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/pic\/1290198368\/Linndzy-lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/davidgarethw-books-b.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/28091995"},"dateDigested":1531974049,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"Lindsey Pent response","description":"We have read many short stories in English class, but there were some that were more successful than others. I think that the most successful story that we have read is \u201cHow It Feels to Be Colored Me\u201d, not only because it is well written but it also has a clear and positive message. This story is about one girl\u2019s positive feelings about being who she is. She is proud of whom she is and she isn\u2019t afraid of what other people think. She has a sense of being that she always carries with her. \u201cAt certain times I have no race, I am me.\u201d Here we can see the confidence that she has for who she is and what she looks like no matter what other people thought about her.
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\nThen we read short stories that were not as successful. The least successful one being \u201cThe New Dress\u201d. This story wasn\u2019t as well written as \u201cHow it feels to be colored me\u201d and the girl in this story isn\u2019t as secure about who she is. I also think that this stories message isn\u2019t as positive and uplifting. It talks more about Mabel\u2019s insecurity and how she feels that she needed to be complemented to actually be pretty. \u201cI feel like some dowdy, decrepit, horribly dingy old fly\u201d. This quote shows exactly how she feels about herself and how she looks.
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\nThere are some similarities between the two stories. For one thing both women are doing something that they have never done before; they are going into the unknown. They are facing new problems and challenges, but the way that they face them are completely different. Zora, from \u201cHow It Feels to Be Colored Me\u201d is brave and headstrong. She isn\u2019t afraid of what other people think about her, because she knows who she is. Mabel, from \u201cThe New Dress\u201d on the other hand is afraid of what people think and she is nervous about fitting in. She wants people to accept her. I think it is clear that there are major differences between the two stories. But there are also some key similarities.","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[{"id":"28150797","body":"Not bad, Linsey,
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\nNot bad at all.
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\nI hope that you try to do more work like this in the future. You thought this through and the writing is clear and straightforward.
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\nThanks,
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\nWebster","dateCreated":"1286493310","smartDate":"Oct 7, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"davidgarethw","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/davidgarethw","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}}],"more":0}]},{"id":"28039827","dateCreated":"1286333052","smartDate":"Oct 5, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"joseph86","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/joseph86","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/davidgarethw-books-b.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/28039827"},"dateDigested":1531974050,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"joseph wiki","description":"I think that the least successful story so far is the swimmer. I think this because a good story has to have the reader hooked on with the story. In the swimmer the rising action is too long and too repetitive. Besides the fact that the rising action is so long, the climax and the resolution are not well written. It is such that the climax as well as the resolution and the ending are all smashed into the last paragraph of the story. So in theory with a long and boring rising action, a short not well constructed climax and a resolution that is a sentence long. This poor structure makes the story not interesting and bores the reader, hence the story cannot be counted as a successful story.
\nThe most successful story, in my opinion is called "a good man is hard to find". In this story there is a good introduction. Hooking the reader into the story. Then the rising action is filled with suspense, making the reader get into the story, and making the story interesting to read. Then the climax is very intense. Thus making another reason why this story is a successful one. Another one of these reasons is that it has a well written and a resolution that fits into the story. So all these factors combined together plus the intensity and the suspense of the story, make the story \u201ca good man is hard to find\u201d a successful story.
\nIn theses two stories have few similarities. One of these similarities that the two stories both talk about an adventure. However \u201ca good man is hard to find\u201d has more suspense than \u201cthe swimmer\u201d. This makes \u201ca good man is hard to find\u201d way more interesting that \u201cthe swimmer. Differences go on between these two stories. Fairly obvious ones like in \u201ca good man is hard to find\u201d there is violence and in the other story there is no violence. Then there are more complicated ones mentioned beforehand, like in \u201ca good man is hard to find\u201d the rising actions has more peaks and in \u201c the swimmer\u201d the rising action is long and dull. So this is the comparison between the most successful story this year and the least successful.","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[{"id":"28066495","body":"Joseph,
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\nI like the detail with which you describe the stories, how you line them up against the short story diagram that we reviewed in class. Good... but...
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\n1) You write 'So in theory with a long and boring rising action, a short not well constructed climax and a resolution that is a sentence long.' Alright, but are you sure that 'theory' is the best word you could use here? What might be a better choice?
\n2) How do we capitalize and punctuate short story titles?
\n3) You have two incomplete sentences here. Could you fix them? 'Hooking the reader into the story.''Thus making another reason why this story is a successful one.'
\n4)'One of these similarities that the two stories both talk about an adventure.' Really? Do the stories really talk, like people?
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\nThanks,
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\nWebster","dateCreated":"1286384251","smartDate":"Oct 6, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"davidgarethw","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/davidgarethw","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"28104539","body":"1) so one can that with a long...
\n2)"A Good Man is Hard to Find" and "The Swimmer"
\n3)"this introduction hooks the reader into the story"
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\n"this intense climax is another reason why this story can count as a successful one"
\n4) One of these similarities is that these two stories both contain an adventure","dateCreated":"1286421450","smartDate":"Oct 6, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"joseph86","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/joseph86","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"28150597","body":"Great,
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\nThanks for fixing this, but I still don't quite understand #1. Could you find the time to go back and think it through again?
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\nThanks,
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\nWebster","dateCreated":"1286493089","smartDate":"Oct 7, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"davidgarethw","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/davidgarethw","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"28151699","body":"oops sorry that is not what i meant
\ni meant " so one can say that with this long and boring rising action..."","dateCreated":"1286494215","smartDate":"Oct 7, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"joseph86","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/joseph86","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"28184473","body":"Great Joseph,
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\nThanks,
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\nWebster","dateCreated":"1286552754","smartDate":"Oct 8, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"davidgarethw","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/davidgarethw","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}}],"more":0}]},{"id":"28038307","dateCreated":"1286330970","smartDate":"Oct 5, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"pjoaristi321","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/pjoaristi321","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/davidgarethw-books-b.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/28038307"},"dateDigested":1531974050,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"Paulina Joaristi","description":"The most successful story we have read is \u201cHow it feels to be colored me\u201d. This is because it expresses Zora Neale\u2019s pride and uniqueness through her precise speech, careful details and feelings about her childhood. Zora\u2019s objective is to inform all others that no matter what your background and race is you should feel proud and embrace it and never let others bring you down. The details about Zora\u2019s heritage really reflect that although she may be different, she does not consider it a disadvantage. Her story makes it clear that she wants to be recognized as an individual and not as a colored person. In today\u2019s world racism is a common topic that always genererates serious discussion. Zora Neale Hurston vocally speaks out to all human races, no matter where you they from. She embraces her culture and makes sure she informs all others that the color of one\u2019s skin color should not have an effect on people\u2019s rights, responsibilities and accesses to opportunities.
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\nThe least successful story is "Rope". During the story the characters remain unnamed and un-described .The author also effectively tells the story from one of the character's point of view; that of the wife. This has a distracting effect on the reader making it frustrating to engage in the reading. The story effectively demonstrates what can happen in a relationship without mutual respect and a conscious effort to understand the other's point of view. Unfortunately, these "fated" relationship are not uncommon in our society. Now a days when a "fated" relationship takes place it quickly turns into a divorce or a domestic violence dispute. However, the author was trying to imply that marriage is thought to be an example one generally good relationships. It offers a reference point for objectively evaluating one's own culpability in a relationship gone bad. It can also provide an insightful look at how not to handle a problem in a relationship.
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\nThese two stories are very differentt in several ways. In \u201cHow it feels to be colored me\u201d the author writes in a direct way. She expresses her points of views and feelings from the very begining. She makes her opinions clear enough for the reader to understand were Zora stands in society. It focuses on the main idea and doesn't mingle nor pretend to distract the reader from the plot. On the other hand "Rope" uses writing techniques that make the reader question themselves if there are actually understanding the plot. I appreciate the author\u2019s use of dialogue which makes it easier for the reader to see the individual perspective of both characters but nevertheless it fails to capture the reader\u2019s attention.","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[{"id":"28066167","body":"This is good, Paulina,
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\nThere are a bunch of grammatical and spelling errors here,but I want to focus on what you have to say about "Rope".
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\nFirstly, what do you mean by 'fated'? I don't quite understand.
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\nSecondly,I would like you to go back and look through the story again. Are you sure that the entire thing is seen through the eyes of the wife? Please try to find examples of whether this is true or not...
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\nThanks,
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\nWebster","dateCreated":"1286383927","smartDate":"Oct 6, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"davidgarethw","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/davidgarethw","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"28094251","body":"By a "fated" relationship I meant a "faded" one. A marriage in which love has faded and each one has gone their way. They don't see eye to eye anymore, and do not value their place in the marriage.The entire story is not seen throughout the eyes of the wife but the burden of the argument rests with the woman; she initiates them and she ends them. While the husband has no comprehension of her point of view. The husband views himself as a traditional worker who brings home the money.","dateCreated":"1286410074","smartDate":"Oct 6, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"pjoaristi321","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/pjoaristi321","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"28150517","body":"Great Paulina,
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\nThat is well put.
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\nThanks,
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\nWebster","dateCreated":"1286492980","smartDate":"Oct 7, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"davidgarethw","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/davidgarethw","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}}],"more":0}]},{"id":"28036923","dateCreated":"1286329480","smartDate":"Oct 5, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"taeyang","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/taeyang","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/pic\/1223342653\/taeyang-lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/davidgarethw-books-b.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/28036923"},"dateDigested":1531974050,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"BRIAN","description":"The most successful story was "A Good Man is hard to find". The story "A Good Man is hard to find" is about a family, and a killer called "Misfit". It contains many events that could be chance, or fate. And many suprise happens in that story. The climax of this story is when the family meets the "Misfit" who escaped from jail, and the grandma already knew about him. Grandma realizes and tells to everyone that he is the "Misfit". So the Mistfit needs to kill her, because she realizes him, so he tells to family why he has to kill them, and kills them. The story ends with the result of fate. It was really interesting for me, and i believe it was really interesting for other people also.
\nThe least successful story was the "Tuesday night". It's a story about what happend in every Tuesdays. This story was confused for me, because i haven't seen this kind of story before. The story was written down like a diary, so evevry storys in this story are not connected. And there are many inferences, so we have to guess or make conculusion based on the inference. If we have different conculusion the whole story becomes different. The ending of this story was bad, because it ends too suddenly, and it doesn't have any climax, so we just read it without any feeling. The story was like a diary from other person, so it contains many things that only the owner of diary knows.
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\nThose "A Good Man is hard to find", and "Tuesday night" are really different. "A Good man is hard to find" has explanation about those happenings, has climax, and we could feel the characters feeling. But in "Tuesday night" we had to infer a lot, and we don't really know what characters feel, because we don't really know what author wants to tell us.","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[{"id":"28065881","body":"Thanks Brian,
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\nI am glad that you answered so early, but it seems as if you are just telling me the story of "A Good Man is Hard to Find" all over again. Could you tell me a little bit more of why you liked it? I am much more interested in hearing in what you have to say than in just reading you tell me about the story again.
\nI like what you have to say about "Tuesday Night". Try to do that for the first story.
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\nThanks,
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\nWebster","dateCreated":"1286383661","smartDate":"Oct 6, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"davidgarethw","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/davidgarethw","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"28080523","body":"The most successful story was "A Good Man is hard to find". The story "A Good Man is hard to find" is about a family, and a killer called "Misfit". It contains many events that could be chance, and fate. And many suprise happens in that story. It has a clear climax when the family got killed, I think a story really has to have a climax, because the climax brings the readers feeling to the highest ponit. So readers could feel what cahracter is feeling, and the tension of that situation. And I liked the wiki question of this story also, because i didn't realize there were many fates, and chances in that story, but after answered wiki I realized that the story ends with the result of fate. But they still had many chances. It was really interesting for me, and i believe it was really interesting for other people also.","dateCreated":"1286396296","smartDate":"Oct 6, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"taeyang","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/taeyang","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/pic\/1223342653\/taeyang-lg.jpg"}},{"id":"28150469","body":"Alright Brian,
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\nGood work,
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\nThanks,
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\nWebster","dateCreated":"1286492923","smartDate":"Oct 7, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"davidgarethw","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/davidgarethw","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}}],"more":0}]},{"id":"28035193","dateCreated":"1286327553","smartDate":"Oct 5, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"SolSpier","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/SolSpier","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/davidgarethw-books-b.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/28035193"},"dateDigested":1531974051,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"+-","description":"Throughout the year several short stories have been read in English class. Some more successful than others. The most successful story is "How It Feels To Be Colored Me" by Zora Neil Hurston. This story was successful as not only is it interesting and well written, but it has a positive message. Zora, the narrator, is a black woman who is proud of her ethnicity. This is not a typical story, as Zora shows the reader an alternative approach and point of view on this ethnicity. Zora is a role model, she is a very positive and inspiring character. "Don\u2019t let white people use the force of discrimination to drag you down to your knees," (pg. 983). She teaches several lessons throughout the story. It doesn't talk only about racism, but it also talks about believing in oneself and having faith. Not only is this a good story, but it is atypical. It also has a positive and inspiring message.
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\nThe least successful story that has been read in class is "The Swimmer" by John Cheever. This story is about a man who swims through all the swimming pools in his town until he reaches his home. This story is very confusing. It is written in an odd manner in which it ends in the climax, and does not have a clear resolution. The story is not very interesting, so it does not hook the reader, there is nothing about it that would make the reader eager to keep reading it. This story does not have a clear message nor conclusion. It is a fail of a story.
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\nBoth "The Swimmer" and "How It Feels To Be Colored Me" are very different stories. The stories have a different structure; the swimmer ends with the climax and does not have a clear resolution. "How It Feels To Be Colored Me" has a clear, positive message. "The Swimmer" in contrast, does not have a clear message nor resolution. The most admiral aspect of "How It Feels To Be Colored Me" is it's message. Zora narrates in a way that the reader may feel connected to her, it is almost personal. Neddy, however, is not a character who the reader can connect nor relate to. These stories differ greatly in key components.","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[{"id":"28065667","body":"OK Sol,
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\nYou write that 'This story does not have a clear message nor conclusion. It is a fail of a story.' First of all, so you see the mistake here? Secondly, why does a story need a clear message and a conclusion to make it a successful story?
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\nThanks,
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\nWebster","dateCreated":"1286383440","smartDate":"Oct 6, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"davidgarethw","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/davidgarethw","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}}],"more":0}]},{"id":"28035009","dateCreated":"1286327383","smartDate":"Oct 5, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"jose_4595","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/jose_4595","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/davidgarethw-books-b.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/28035009"},"dateDigested":1531974051,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"jose rodriguez","description":"
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\nThe most successful story has to be \u201cThe Man who was almost a Man\u201d. This story has to be the most successful because it relates to how teenagers act. Teenagers like to do things that they are not supposed to do for some reason and when they do it, they mess up. That is what happened to Dave in the story. He wanted a gun only because he wanted to be respected, he didn\u2019t want to use it to kill someone, but he ended up killing Mr. Hawkins mule, Jenny. This story teaches teenagers to not do things that they shouldn\u2019t be doing because they can get in very big trouble.
\nThe least successful story is The Swimmer. This story made no sense to me. While I was reading the story I was thinking \u201cWhy would this guy swim until he gets home? This guy isn\u2019t normal.\u201d It was very boring; I didn\u2019t want to continue reading the story because it was too boring. The story was also hard to understand because the author used a weird technique to write the story; I couldn\u2019t follow the story as I read. The main character, Neddy, was a confused guy, he didn\u2019t know that there was nobody in his house. This story doesn\u2019t teach anything to anyone, all it is about is a guy who is very lost swims in every pool he finds until he finds his house, which is empty and he has no family with him.
\nI don\u2019t see how these stories are similar to each other, but they are very different from each other. One of the differences is that \u201cThe Man who was almost a Man\u201d teaches something to you after you read it, on the other hand \u201cThe Swimmer\u201d doesn\u2019t teach anything to you. The main character of \u201cThe Swimmer\u201d is crazy and lost, and in the story \u201cThe Man who was almost a Man\u201d the main character, Dave, is unsecure and looks for respect because he doesn\u2019t get respect from the other people. They are also different by how the story is written, \u201cThe Swimmer is written in a very odd way, while \u201cThe Man who was almost a Man\u201d was written mostly by dialogue, and the word are the way that the black people talk. Those are the main differences of these stories.","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[{"id":"28065437","body":"Thanks Jose,
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\nWebster","dateCreated":"1286383142","smartDate":"Oct 6, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"davidgarethw","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/davidgarethw","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}}],"more":0}]},{"id":"28033109","dateCreated":"1286325435","smartDate":"Oct 5, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"meladovelado","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/meladovelado","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/pic\/1317260331\/meladovelado-lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/davidgarethw-books-b.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/28033109"},"dateDigested":1531974051,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"Melanie Velado","description":"The most successful story that we have read is \u201cThe Man Who Was Almost a Man\u201d. This is because the author has various techniques to help the reader connect with the colored main character, Dave. At first, the author doesn\u2019t put quotation marks in the introduction of the short story when Dave is speaking because he wants to give the reader a sense of comfort and helps to relate with the main character. Another reason why this short story is considered successful is because it provides a life lesson that can be learned, and the story is very realistic. Dave wants to be a man having possession over a gun, but because of his immaturity and lack of education he is not aware of the consequences that owning a gun might bring. He is only a seventeen-year-old colored boy who wants to have control and the same rights as older men, and believes that he will be able to obtain this equality by owning a gun. This gives the reader insight of how important power and equality is for a young man, and how younger boys can be imprudent and lack maturity when taking decisions.
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\nOn the other hand, the most unsuccessful story we read was \u201cThe Swimmer\u201d. The reason why it was the most unsuccessful story was because it was very unrealistic, confusing, and pretty hard to understand. The author uses a different and odd technique when writing the story, and gives the reader a hard time to keep up with the events that are occurring at a certain laps of time in the story. The story is very complicated in the way that the reader is not able to keep track of how the character changes, how lost he gets progressively and how he loses everything because of his selfishness. This story also ends in the climax, when the main character Neddy Merrill reaches his destination, home, and doesn\u2019t find anybody there because he is facing the truth which is that he nobody has anybody else in his life. There is no resolution, and leaves the reader with a lot of doubts and unclearness.
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\nBoth of these stories differ in a great variety of ways, and are similar in some ways. The way that these stories are similar are in the way that the reader is able to know the characters pretty well because they are established in the introductions of the story, and this helps the reader keep track of who of the secondary characters the main character is dealing with. On the other hand, both of these stories differ in the way of writing. \u201cA Man Who Was Almost a Man\u201d is very direct, and has a clear and compact structure with an introduction, plot, climax, and a resolution. On the other hand, \u201cThe Swimmer\u201d has an introduction, a plot, and ends at a climax, leaving the reader with many doubts and interpretations to make. \u201cA Man Who Was Almost a Man\u201d was also very entertaining because it provides a lesson, and \u201cThe Swimmer\u201d doesn\u2019t really teach a lesson, but a weird story of a man who loses himself in a period of time.","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[{"id":"28065325","body":"Great,
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\nThanks Melanie,
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\nWebster","dateCreated":"1286383032","smartDate":"Oct 6, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"davidgarethw","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/davidgarethw","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}}],"more":0}]},{"id":"28031431","dateCreated":"1286323778","smartDate":"Oct 5, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"daniaiz","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/daniaiz","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/davidgarethw-books-b.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/28031431"},"dateDigested":1531974051,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"Daniel Aizenman","description":"The most successful story I have read during English class was \u201cThe Man That Was Almost a Man\u201d because it is a story that has a realistic plot. I remember that one time there was an article in the news, in which a teenager thought that his illegally purchased gun was not charged and accidentally shot another adolescent. Also, I believe that the school should teach us to stay away from drugs and weapons because we, as teenagers, need to know what having a weapon can lead you to. Thirdly, I like this short story because it had a lot of suspense, and suspenseful stories are the type of stories I like because they make me keep on reading without me wanting to.
\nThe story I disliked the most was \u201cThe swimmer\u201d. I disliked this story a lot because it was unrealistic. A normal person wouldn\u2019t swim a large distance for nothing. This story didn\u2019t motivate me to keep on reading; it didn\u2019t have a lot of suspense. I also disliked this story because of the way the story is written. The story is written in a way that makes the reader not comprehend well what is happening in the story. Finally, I didn\u2019t like the story because the story didn\u2019t had a major climax or a major conflict that makes the reader start thinking of what will happen next or start to ask questions about the book.
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\nBoth of the stories defer in many ways; the story, \u201cThe Man That Was Almost a Man had a lot of suspense compared to the story,\u201d The Swimmer\u201d which didn\u2019t have suspense. Also, short story \u201c The Man That Was Almost A Man\u201d, was very realistic compared to the short story,\u201d The Swimmer\u201d, which wasn\u2019t. A teenage person shooting another person by accident might be more common than a person swimming a huge distance for no reason. Also, the short story, \u201cThe Man That Was Almost a Man\u201d, had a more intense conflict or climax than the short story, \u201c The Swimmer\u201d. Finally, I conclude that one story was very boring, \u201cThe swimmer\u201d, and one was very exciting, \u201c The Man That Was Almost A Man\u201d.","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[{"id":"28062287","body":"Daniel,
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\nI would like you to go back and tell us more about the story, "The Man Who was Almost a Man". What about the story itself did you appreciate- don't forget quotes and references will help you. I'd rather know about that than about something that you read in the news or some opinion you hold regarding school.
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\nAlso, with "The Swimmer": when you claim that it is written in a way that is difficult to understand could you give us an example or two of this challenging style?
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\nWhat does this mean? "Both of the stories defer in many ways..." I am a bit confused with it.
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\nLastly, I would like you to go back and re-write this response in the present-tense, not the past-tense.
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\nThanks,
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\nWebster","dateCreated":"1286380553","smartDate":"Oct 6, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"davidgarethw","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/davidgarethw","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"28163825","body":"The most successful story I have read during English class was \u201cThe Man That Was Almost a Man\u201d because it is a story that has a realistic plot. I remember that one time there was an article in the news, in which a teenager thought that his illegally purchased gun was not charged and accidentally shot another adolescent. Also, I believe that the school should teach us to stay away from drugs and weapons because we, as teenagers, need to know what having a weapon can lead you to. Thirdly, I like this short story because it had a lot of suspense, and suspenseful stories are the type of stories I like because they make me keep on reading without me wanting to.
\nThe story I disliked the most was \u201cThe swimmer\u201d. I disliked this story a lot because it was unrealistic. A normal person wouldn\u2019t swim a large distance for nothing. This story didn\u2019t motivate me to keep on reading; it doesn\u2019t have a lot of suspense. I also disliked this story because of the way the story is written. The story is written in a way that makes the reader not comprehend well what is happening in the story. It is difficult to not comprehend because the reader doesn\u2019t get to know what is happening until the end of the story. Finally, I dislike the story because the story didn\u2019t had a major climax or a major conflict that makes the reader start thinking of what will happen next or start to ask questions about the book.
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\nThe stories \u201cThe Man That Was Almost A Man\u201d and \u201cThe Swimmer \u201cdiffer in many ways, \u201cThe Man That Was Almost a Man had a lot of suspense compared to the story,\u201d The Swimmer\u201d which didn\u2019t have suspense. Also, short story \u201c The Man That Was Almost A Man\u201d, was very realistic compared to the short story,\u201d The Swimmer\u201d, which wasn\u2019t. A teenage person shooting another person by accident might be more common than a person swimming a huge distance for no reason. Also, the short story, \u201cThe Man That Was Almost a Man\u201d, has a more intense conflict or climax than the short story, \u201c The Swimmer\u201d. Finally, I conclude that one story was very boring, \u201cThe swimmer\u201d, and one was very exciting, \u201c The Man That Was Almost A Man\u201d.","dateCreated":"1286508339","smartDate":"Oct 7, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"daniaiz","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/daniaiz","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"28186265","body":"Thanks,
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\nWebster","dateCreated":"1286553819","smartDate":"Oct 8, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"davidgarethw","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/davidgarethw","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}}],"more":0}]},{"id":"28008947","dateCreated":"1286298304","smartDate":"Oct 5, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"negrasolano","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/negrasolano","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/pic\/1222961550\/negrasolano-lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/davidgarethw-books-b.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/28008947"},"dateDigested":1531974052,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"nicole solano ","description":"
\nI think that the most successful story was "A Good Man Is Hard To Find".I liked this story because of the suspense it has. The story is well built and is interesting, it just made me want to keep reading, and that's what i like in a story.The story "A Good Man Is Hard To Find" was about this killer that had escaped from jail and runs into this family that just had an accident. I liked this story also because of what it taught me.The fact that the grandma is so selfish and only cares about her being alive.The conversation that the grandma has with the Misfit it\u2019s really interesting to see the way he opens up to her, but when she over does it she has to suffer the consequences, which was getting killed.I like it because throughout the whole story.I like it because what happens to this family is something that could happen to any of us. Even though it is a violent story I also liked that it had a lot to do with faith and chance.
\n The most unsuccessful story that we read was \u201c The Swimmer\u201d.This story taught me absolutely nothing. It was boring and in my point of view had no point. I\u2019m the type of person that likes to read stories that teach me something, or stories that keep me entertain and put me to think. And a story about a guy that\u2019s swimming because he\u2019s crazy doesn\u2019t really teach me anything.We don\u2019t see the real problem of the story till the end when he get\u2019s home and he finds himself alone.And then we realize how in denial he is, which makes it confusing to understand throughout the whole story.
\n \u201cA Good Man Is Hard To Find\u201d and \u201cThe Swimmer\u201d are different in many ways. \u201cA Good Man Is Hard To Find\u201d is very clear in explaining what\u2019s going on and in \u201cThe Swimmer\u201d you understand what\u2019s going on untill the end.The end of this 2 stories are opposite, because \u201cA Good Man Is Hard To Find\u201d ends in a tragic way but you expected that to happen, in \u201cThe Swimmer\u201d even though it ends \u201ctragic\u201d you never expect him to not have a family.","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[{"id":"28024281","body":"Nicole,
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\nI would like you to go back and take out all the first-person pronouns here.
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\nAfter that we will move on.
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\nThanks,
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\nWebster","dateCreated":"1286315757","smartDate":"Oct 5, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"davidgarethw","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/davidgarethw","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}},{"id":"28121239","body":"The most successful story we have read is "A Good Man Is Hard To Find".This was a good story because of the suspense it has. The story is well built and is interesting, it just made me want to keep reading.The story "A Good Man Is Hard To Find" was about this killer that had escaped from jail and runs into this family that just had an accident. This story also was really good because of what it taught to the readers.The fact that the grandma is so selfish and only cares about her being alive.The conversation that the grandma has with the Misfit it\u2019s really interesting to see the way he opens up to her, but when she over does it she has to suffer the consequences, which was getting killed.Readers could also relate to what happens to the family because it\u2019s something that could happen to anybody. Even though it is a violent story you could sum up that it had to do a lot about chance or fait.
\n The most unsuccessful story that we have read was \u201c The Swimmer\u201d.This story taught absolutely nothing. It was boring and had no point. People read stories that teach them something, or stories that keep them entertain and put them to think. And a story about a guy that\u2019s swimming because he\u2019s crazy doesn\u2019t really teach anybody anything.We don\u2019t see the real problem of the story till the end when he get\u2019s home and he finds himself alone.And then we realize how in denial he is, which makes it confusing to understand throughout the whole story.
\n \u201cA Good Man Is Hard To Find\u201d and \u201cThe Swimmer\u201d are different in many ways. \u201cA Good Man Is Hard To Find\u201d is very clear in explaining what\u2019s going on and in \u201cThe Swimmer\u201d you understand what\u2019s going on untill the end.The end of this 2 stories are opposite, because \u201cA Good Man Is Hard To Find\u201d ends in a tragic way but you expected that to happen, in \u201cThe Swimmer\u201d even though it ends \u201ctragic\u201d you never expect him to not have a family.","dateCreated":"1286464163","smartDate":"Oct 7, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"negrasolano","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/negrasolano","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/pic\/1222961550\/negrasolano-lg.jpg"}},{"id":"28150661","body":"Alright Nicole,
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\nThanks,
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\nWebster","dateCreated":"1286493159","smartDate":"Oct 7, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"davidgarethw","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/davidgarethw","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}}],"more":0}]}],"more":true},"comments":[]},"http":{"code":200,"status":"OK"},"redirectUrl":null,"javascript":null,"notices":{"warning":[],"error":[],"info":[],"success":[]}}